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GOP's Image Remake

Stuart95 Wrote: Mar 22, 2013 5:21 PM
"Next, Republicans have to figure out a way to attract more women and young people" The evidence is anecdotal but the logic is solid: Some women and, especially, young people who are fiscally conservative do not vote Republican because the Republican Party has let itself be defined by the conservatives who are social conservatives first and fiscal conservatives second. The fastest way to recruit new voters is ease up on (which doesn't mean abandon) the social issues and emphasize the fiscal issues. If social conservatives don't like that, they might consider that fiscal conservatives can stop funding that subsidizes questionable behaviors, and that without winning numbers, they are dooming us to socialism AND radical social liberalism.
jsullivan154 Wrote: Mar 24, 2013 1:29 AM
Stu, tea toddling will only lead you along w/grover w/a one way ticket to oblivion? My fingers are crossed and judging from the last election you're history not a new idea?

BTW Stu, aren't youall suposed to be the party of increasing revenue thru growth? And lately Now we see this recent fiscal responsibility? Have you'all given up on growing the economy you destroyed for improved revenue?
Troglodite Wrote: Mar 22, 2013 6:34 PM

The logic of what you suggest is tempting. Indeed, I for one think that we would be a lot better off if we simply stopped making things worse by subsidizing "questionable behaviors." That said, a genuine question: will the young people who definitely are socially liberal and allegedly are fiscally conservative go for this approach? Or are they so committed to their social liberalism as their highest priority that they will, regardless of what the GOP does, vote for the Democrats as the more socially liberal party?
Stuart95 Wrote: Mar 22, 2013 7:00 PM
Numerically, either "conservatives" stayed home in protest last November, or there are not enough conservatives to win a national race. Either way, we will continue to lose until the Republican tent is opened far enough to recruit winning numbers. Rumor has it that a significant number of fiscally conservative social liberals (often, libertarians) can be persuaded to vote for fiscal sanity if we don't act like stopping gay marriage is our top priority.

And as I said above, conservatives can loosen up on the social issues, recruit winning numbers of independents, defeat socialism, and damp social issues, or they can pout in the corner while we get socialism AND radical social policies.
Troglodite Wrote: Mar 22, 2013 8:25 PM

"Rumor has that a significant number" etc. etc. And therein lies the problem: this is, so far, mostly a rumor or a speculation. Conversely, of course, my thought that some of the alleged social liberals will always vote Democratic because the social issue comes first in their minds is also a speculation or, if you will, a rumor. In the absence of additional credible data, we are all arm-waving and speculating.
jsullivan154 Wrote: Mar 24, 2013 1:32 AM
Tro maybe if you'all stopped ranting about eliminating the minimum wage and allowing CEO's to reap bounties up to 380 times their average employees? Just a though for the few of the few?
Gilchrist Wrote: Mar 24, 2013 8:27 PM
Go ahead, keep repeating your same choices in candidate and platform. If you think you are going to achieve a different result you are insane.
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