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Conservatism Killing the GOP?

Stuart95 Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 10:46 AM
The Democrats proved in November that they have superior numbers in a fair fight. So what to do? Since it is a numbers game; get a clean piece of paper and start looking for numbers. What is the biggest common denominator for building an opposition to Democratic policy? Rasmussen says it's the economy. So the first platform planks should establish principles regarding spending, taxing, economic federalism, deficit, debt, etc. that adhere to the Constitution and attract voters. So, where do you go next for more voters, without alienating the fiscal conservatives you already have? Jobs? Immigration? Education? National defense? Health care? Polls will tell you not what principles to establish, but what issues to address.
Alex_P Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 3:07 PM
It is an interesting definition of fair fight with over 100% votes in some precincts, all going to Obama.
wiseone Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 11:11 AM
The only thing that was proven in November is that a an extreme leftist incumbent Democrat can out-poll a left-of-center Republican.

Conservatism wasn't on the ballot. Not even at the VP level as it was in 2008.
Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 11:15 AM
If a "conservative" had been on the ballot the results would have been even worse for Republicans.
Stuart95 Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 12:28 PM
Wiseone, what you're telling us is that unless certain levels of conservative purity are met, "conservatives" will stay home and let a moderate be beaten by a socialist.

The only other explanation is that there simply aren't enough "conservatives" to win a national election.

And that's why we're going to have to make the tent larger, not smaller.
Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 10:56 AM
Not a bad bit of advice. On the other hand, what were the first tow bills profferred in teh current House of REps? Taxes? Jobs? SPending? Deficits ? Any of the things you mention? Nope.

Defunding planned parenthood.

Stuart95 Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 11:07 AM
And therein lies the problem: Republicans' political tin ear.

Shrill social conservatives complain that any easing-off of social issues means they are being told to give up their moral values. That is totally not true. What's true is that the libertarians and independents who could give Republicans winning numbers are alienated by constant talk of abortion, gay rights, religion, etc. that, with help from the MSM, makes the Republican Party look like a bunch of social nannies.

Social conservatives can continue to stir the pot, but they will eventually realize that they may be assuring the continued national victories of liberals, thus guaranteeing a direct, sophistry-filled attack by people who ARE telling us to give up our moral values.
As President Obama enters his second term, what "mandate" does he enjoy? His liberal media enablers are boldly declaring that somehow his four-point victory was a "shellacking," and the Republican Party is in danger of "ceasing to be a national party." They're very blunt about what's killing the GOP: conservatism.

It's not helping the GOP that some of its conservative leaders are acting thoroughly intimidated.

On the Feb. 10 "Meet the Press," House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said the Republicans needed to "connect our conservative principles with helping people and making their life work again." This only invited NBC...