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Steve of CA Wrote: Aug 12, 2012 6:40 PM

"The Pope’s latest encyclical, Caritas in veritate, is not an isolated assault on capitalism. It is part of a longstanding antipathy toward capitalism.." http://blog.aynrandcenter.org/tags/pope/

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ResistWeMuch Wrote: Aug 12, 2012 6:59 PM

Ryan also mentions Pope Benedict XVI’s statements on global economics in defending his proposed budget:

Ryan cites Light of the World, a book-length interview of Pope Benedict XVI, as an example of how the Catholic Church takes the global debt problem seriously. “We are living at the expense of future generations,” the pope says. “In this respect, it is plain that we are living in untruth.” Ryan takes those words seriously. “The pope was really clear,” he says.

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/08/paul-ryan-give-me-thomas-aquinasdont.html

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/297054/paul-ryans-whittington-lecture-daniel-foster

If you are trying to argue that Ryan is a capitalist, I agree, but if you believe that the

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ResistWeMuch Wrote: Aug 12, 2012 7:00 PM

Catholic Church is four-square behind the social justice proclaimed by many people on the Left, you are flat-out wrong and I have the sources to prove it.

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ResistWeMuch Wrote: Aug 12, 2012 7:01 PM

“Distributive justice does not render to the human being the totality of his due.' Man seeks for something much more– for salvation– which can only come through Christ and his Church. EFFORTS TO ACHIEVE SOCIAL JUSTICE THROUGH THE FORCE OF HUMAN LAW CANNOT SUCCEED. THE RADICAL IMPULSE TO ELIMINATE ALL OPPRESSIVE STRUCTURES, HOPING THEREBY TO BRING A JUST AND EQUAL SOCIETY, IS DOOMED....Injustice, the fruit of evil, does not have exclusively external roots; its origin lies in the human heart, where the seeds are found of a mysterious cooperation with evil. We have experienced in collapsed socialism where this thinking can lead to."

- Pope Benedict XVI

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ResistWeMuch Wrote: Aug 12, 2012 7:01 PM

"Hence, it is clear that THE MAIN TENET OF SOCIALISM, COMMUNITY OF GOODS, MUST BE UTTERLY REJECTED, since it only injures those whom it would seem meant to benefit, is directly contrary to the natural rights of mankind, and would introduce confusion and disorder into the commonwealth. The first and most fundamental principle, therefore, if one would undertake to alleviate the condition of the masses, must be the inviolability of private property."

- Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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ResistWeMuch Wrote: Aug 12, 2012 7:01 PM

"To remedy these wrongs the socialists, working on the poor man's envy of the rich, are striving to do away with private property, and contend that individual possessions should become the common property of all, to be administered by the State or by municipal bodies. They hold that by thus transferring property from private individuals to the community, the present mischievous state of things will be set to rights, inasmuch as each citizen will then get his fair share of whatever there is to enjoy...They are, moreover, emphatically unjust, for they would rob the lawful possessor, distort the functions of the State, and create utter confusion in the community."

- Leo XIII

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ResistWeMuch Wrote: Aug 12, 2012 7:02 PM

"It is surely undeniable that, when a man engages in remunerative labor, the impelling reason and motive of his work is to obtain property, and thereafter to hold it as his very own...Socialists, therefore, by endeavoring to transfer the possessions of individuals to the community at large, strike at the interests of every wage-earner, since they would deprive him of the liberty of disposing of his wages, and thereby of all hope and possibility of increasing his resources and of bettering his condition in life."

- Leo XIII

"NO ONE CAN BE AT THE SAME TIME A GOOD CATHOLIC AND A TRUE SOCIALIST."

- Pius XI

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ResistWeMuch Wrote: Aug 12, 2012 7:02 PM

"Most important, the Christian faith recognizes that all human institutions are flawed, and that sinful men are likely to misuse their power....Is capitalism Christian? No. It neither advances existing human virtues nor corrects ingrained personal vices; it merely reflects them. But socialism is less consistent with several Biblical tenets for it exacerbates the worst of men’s flaws. BY DIVORCING EFFORT FROM REWARD, STIRRING UP COVETOUSNESS AND ENVY, AND DESTROYING THE FREEDOM THAT IS A NECESSARY PRECONDITION FOR VIRTUE, IT TEARS AT THE JUST SOCIAL FABRIC THAT CHRISTIANS SHOULD SEEK TO ESTABLISH."

- Pius XI

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ResistWeMuch Wrote: Aug 12, 2012 7:02 PM

"The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency."

- John Paul II

"Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes, not divine, but demonic."

- Benedict XVI, Truth and Tolerance

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Steve of CA Wrote: Aug 12, 2012 11:17 PM

No, I am not arguing that the Catholic Church is socialist. I am not socialist either, and neither is President Obama, despite the hyperbole here. But from the Ayn Rand center view, "The Pope’s latest encyclical, Caritas in veritate, is not an isolated assault on capitalism. It is part of a longstanding antipathy toward capitalism.."

This raises questiions not so much about whether the Pope is socialist but about how far right the Ayn Rand view must be that the papal encylicals wiould be dismissed in this manner.

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risher3 Wrote: Aug 13, 2012 1:26 AM

I really enjoyed reading all these quotes from the Catholic leaders, I didn't know they had spoken so much about this subject, thanks.

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