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At Least Get the Big Lie Straight

Steve of CA Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 4:20 AM
"What I’m saying is that the first thing you guys need to do to push the Big Lie is at least get the lie straight." So scientists disagree on how fast sea-levels around the world are rising and that makes them guilty of a "Big Lie"? Global warming and related issues are serious issues and also questions of fact, and should not be clouded with emotional attacks from either side of the issue. That said, considering that the overwhelming majority of climate scientists believe global warming and climate change is taking place, I would accept the scientific consensus, just as I would accept the consensus of scientists who say the earth is billions of years old and that we humans evolved from lower species.
Joesolis Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 9:34 AM
I would have accepted AGW had it not been for the fact the in the same period(1970 - 2000), solar activity increased and the temps of all the planets when adjusted for distance increased by a similar amount as Earth.
Steve of CA Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 10:18 PM
Joesilis - so you are not debating that global warming is gtaking place, only its causes.
pepnm Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 6:58 AM
The last I read, the majority of scientists had reversed they guesses, and now say they either don't if global warming is happening, or maybe going the other direction.

Anyway, it's fun reading John's column as he consistently highlights the lying Obama's Socialist voters and their general ignorance and stupidity.
tibby2 Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 6:16 AM
Researchers have discovered that people will believe anything that you tell them that researchers have discovered.
JOHN1464 Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 5:54 AM
What global warming? In the past 15 years there has not been a temperature rise. Mid 20th century the earth went thruogh a cooling period. What did did the scientists come up with? What they came up with was that we were going into the next ice age.

The models your scientists are using give new meanig to the phrase, "Garbage in, garbage out."
All of you climate change lemmings feel free to live like the Amish right now. But you will not. So put up or shut up.

Wumingren Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 5:49 AM
I wonder if it has occurred to these global climate change folks monitoring the rise of sea level to investigate whether it is the sea level rising or the coastlines falling. I live in Minnesota, which, along with the entire Great Lakes basin, is still rising since the weight of the glaciers has been removed. If the land here is rising, is it not possible that land somewhere else is sinking?
Wumingren Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 5:34 AM
That "green" energy debacle is just alchemy at its best, trying to turn lead into gold. And the charlatans making a buck (billions, actually) off of the naive and ignorant today are no different from any of those in antiquity who made their livings by conjuring magic tricks. At least in the past, when the people discovered they'd been duped, they often resolved the matter by burning the sorcerers at the stake.
PhillupSpace2 Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 4:31 AM
Some think not all have successfully evolved. Tribalism and herd mentality is still in evidence!
Hawker 1 Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 5:33 AM
So true one only has to look at the ,use to be,
Democrats .

Donjindra wrote: We're running huge deficits. Of course our tax bill will go up. It should go up. Do "conservatives" think there's a free-lunch? That money grows on trees? Apparently so. - Merry Christmas: This Tax Increase is for You, America

Dear Comrade Jindra,

OK, so now liberals are worried about the deficit? And you guys are lecturing the rest of us about fiscal responsibility and how money is created?

Typical tough talk from a group that can’t even pass a budget, yet alone balance one.

Here’s a good idea: Have your messiah present a plan to Congress that balances...