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Minorities Disproportionately Worse Off Under Obama

stedes Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 10:02 AM
What have conservatives done for minorities? Why should minorities trust Republicans? The party that uses race baiting in elections, voter ID laws, promotes electric fences at the border, and poverty as choice. Is completely out of touch as a white people's party that want to take the country back. To what we do not know. Conservatives need to take "personal Responsibility" and understand the problem is not democrats pandering to minorities giving them "free stuff". It is your brand of conservatism. It is the exclusiveness of right-wing identity politics promoted here at TH and Fox. Either you belong to our tribe or you don't.
Tacitus X Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 10:36 AM
Absurd comments. The vast majority of race baiting comes from the left. Gee, what a horrible thing to ask for ID before someone casts a vote - and interesting that you regard it as racist. Do border fences only work on members of certain races and let others in? More absurdity. Do we see more poverty in GOP controlled areas, or in Democrat machine controlled areas? To know enough to ask the question is to know the answer. The worst poverty, crime, and education are precisely in Democrat controlled cities, usually in areas with black mayors, black city councils, and black boards of education all doing the Democrats' bidding. No coincidence.
stedes Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 10:49 AM
Your reality is not how minorities see it. You can defend voter ID laws as you see it. But my point is you only see it from your perspective. And you only define it from your vantage point. Even if you are right on your points above, it doesn't change minorities perspective of today's Republican party. Your reply is defense and blaming others. You are not looking inward and taking responsibility. Your policies are culturally insensitive.

Why do minorities oppose voter ID laws? from their viewpoint, it is reminiscent of racist days past when similar laws were used to suppress black votes. Instead of criticizing their view point, show some understanding and sensitivity. You made my point why Republicans do not connect to minorities. Thks
Pistol Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 11:53 AM
stedes, you make my day. A solid informative view from the left. An honest exchange of perceptions vital to bringing us back to making the brotherhood of man uppermost in people's minds, rather than diversity. Diversity is on the surface, so its easily seen and leads to groupthink. Brotherhood is based on the deepseated values common to all of us, which tend to require a bit more patience and effort to discern.

Having explained the minority viewpoint, I suggest you examine it from at least 2 directions. First, does it serve you? Second, you see the misinterpretation of minority thinking by conservatives, do you agree it might be possible there is misinterpretation of conservative thinking by minorities?
miles39 Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 12:31 PM
why do conservatives iunsult blacks then wonder why we wont vote republican..they refuse to see our viewpoint because to them we are inferior and have no real viewpoint.
Tacitus X Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 1:02 PM
Actually you've made my point, thanks. You don't care about the truth or what is right, only what reinforces your prejudices. How is not showing ID before voting part of "minority culture"? Your premise is that one's viewpoint is determined by their race rather than individual thought - what could be more racist than that? By the way, suppressing the black vote was the Democrats' specialty - George Wallace, Bull Connor, Al Gore Sr., Lester Maddox - Democrats all.
Tacitus X Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 1:12 PM
Perhaps they see your viewpoint but don't agree with it. Nor do they agree with it when it's said by whites. Your viewpoint is the problem, not your race. Have the results for blacks under Democrats really been so great to deserve 95% block voting?

It is puzzling that so many minorities voted for Barack Obama over Mitt Romney considering how disproportionately they have suffered economically during Obama's presidency. Black unemployment under Obama increased at a higher pace than whites, from 12.7% to 14.1%, ending at almost twice the unemployment rate of whites. Now, one out of every seven blacks is unemployed. White unemployment barely increased under Obama, from 7.1% to 7.4%.

Blacks' median income has fallen 11.1% under Obama, more than twice as much as whites. The disparity in wealth between whites and blacks nearly doubled during Obama's tenure. According to CNN,...