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Hey, Fat Cat Unions: Pay Your "Fair Share"

Stan432 Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 12:06 PM
Utter nonsense, a free person freely takes a job that a company freely offers at a mutually agreed wage. How many Wal-Mart employees rely on the job for their sole income? If they do, it's not Wal-Mart's fault it's their fault and the educational systems fault (and probably their parents too!). A little logic would certainly help your "argument", so what is it?
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 8:14 PM
Because Wal*Mart (and every other company) cares only about making profit, they have the incentive to meet customer needs, STAY IN BUSINESS (which they can't do worrying about other than profits) and CREATE OPPORTUNITIES. Neither Wal*Mart (or anyone else) is in business to make people "make a living". They have jobs that need completing and people (most of whom are not relying on Wal*Mart wages to make a living) get opportunities. That people get a second job is something that's been going on for generations.

And if you didn't post unless your information were right, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Learn some basic economics.
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 8:10 PM
I know quite a bit about Wal*Mart. That they are paying the market rate is proved by the fact that, if they did not, they would not have people accepting those jobs. It's called Economics 101. This has nothing to do with Sam or his survivors (or the Henry Ford myth - which is debunked economics). It's all about reaching a voluntary point where the employer offers an opportunitty and a worker is willing to take it. Nothing more need be said in a free society. The tiny handful of workers told to work overtime without pay had a legitimate grievance - the pretense that it is indicative of the company as a whole is simply stupid. Slaves had no choice; workers do - that's the only difference that matters.
talltexanoilfieldtrash Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 5:22 PM
cont'd; workers by not giving them shelter, food, and caring for their medical needs. On the other hand, walmart only cares for more profit, bullying their suppliers, giving their employees rotating shifts, which are not long enough to make a living, and therefore prevents their underpaid employees from getting a second job to fill in for what they do not get from their "main" job. Next time know something other than crappy misinformation before you try to correct me. I do not post unless I have my information right.
talltexanoilfieldtrash Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 5:16 PM
fletch, if you knew anything about walmart, you would not say they are paying at "market rate", unless you equate burger flipping at McDee's to a prospect of long term employment. When Sam was alive, he had loyal, long-term employees who at least made bottom of the lower middle class wages. Since they have begun reducing hours, reducing opportunities to 'climb the ladder', and even reducing personel in areas that make it extremely difficult to finish your eequired duties, without working overtime, WITHOUT COMPENSATION, I would call that even worse than 'slave labor'. Although I find slavery repugnant, at least the slaves were furnished with a roof over their heads, food to eat, and medical attention, because only a fool would kill his worke
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 4:35 PM
Since, of course, in the real world, as opposed to your idiotic fantasy, Wal*Mart has provided opportunities for more than a million people at market rates so that they can improve their lot in life. Any imbecile using the term "slave labor" for wage labor has already demonstrated such unbelievable economic ignorance that they can never be taken seriously anyway.

But, hey, thanks ofr playing!
talltexanoilfieldtrash Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 2:18 PM
stan, more than a few one-earner workers who are single and can not find better employment are being screwed by the billionaire heirs of Sam Walton. Since his death, the Wal-Mart owners, and board of directors have reduced the hours people can work, turning full-time (but barely above poverty level jobs) employment there into part time slave labor. Eatshitanddie stan.
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