Keep up the argument John but Coulter is right to say: "What you call pandering is called getting elected," Coulter said. - that's politics, and when Gary Johnson gets the single digit result he can stay warm with his principles when Romney gets Inagurated... in politics, you have to go from here to there and Libertarians haven't a road map to get to the starting gate. Agreeing is not winning, I agree with much of the Lib view but they've never run a thing.

Libertarians are fine but who can trust them when they run as Repubs who then abandon the party whose support they seek? Of all the fine principle talk, they too often strike me as carpet baggers.

I always find Pat reasonable and capable to place an argument into the fevered swamps of the Middle East conflict. But he says: "Their existence is not in imminent peril. And the mullahs are not madmen..." is not a fact, it is an opinion, also a gamble- and isn't all the debate about the risk of no action taken?

The great lie is that Clinton was a centrist by nature- he ran on it and in fact I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when he came to office. Then came Hillary-care and the Lefty Bubba was revealed. He was only a centrist in order to survive because America, of 1994 made him do it- which is what Obama has not and will not do.

No worries indeed. If everyone loves you, you'd be either a saint or in solitary confinement.

The next set of #'s down the road is how many people read/watch the slanted MSM. One wag said, when O'Reilly goes past the network news...

Regular reader Debra. Need to ask yourself a question, whatever writer "Rand lays out an economic scenario that actually makes readers care about where manufacturers" - doubt if you will come up with any - then ask yourself: does it have something to do with characters that "don't talk as real people talk." And please find something fresher than it is a young person's fetish, this love affair of Rand- I've heard it for over 40 years now.