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Arrest George Zimmerman

Solipslip Wrote: Apr 05, 2012 5:39 PM
DEmickey: facts? refute? listen sieve, you don't know anything about my State's Stand Your Ground Law. A "reasonable belief of a threat" is NOT anywhere close the the threshold for SYG. And, "feeling threatened, of being followed" is NOT justifiable use of any physical force - not in FL, not anywhere.
Jay Wye Wrote: Apr 05, 2012 6:48 PM
the law relies on the "reasonable man" standard for self-defense;
that an ordinary man would believe his life was in IMMINENT danger of death or "great bodily harm".

feeling scared or being followed is not justification. Heck,a person just might want to ask directions or some other innocent question.
I'd say in a gated community,a resident would have the right to inquire why a young person was wandering around at night,and it not be considered a "provocation" or "confrontation".
Scott4616 Wrote: Apr 05, 2012 6:05 PM
Solipslip writes: "And, "feeling threatened, of being followed" is NOT justifiable use of any physical force - not in FL, not anywhere."

How about being the victim of assault and battery (hit in the face hard enough to break the nose) followed by jumping on top of you, grabbing you by your head, and bashing your brains out against the concrete?

Does that meet the threshold of justifiable force in self defense?


In the whole swirling political/media uproar over Trayvon Martin's shooting, only two things are indisputably clear: A 17-year-old boy is dead, and George Zimmerman shot him.

Nothing we can do can bring Trayvon back. It's clear from all versions of this event that Trayvon did not deserve to die. It is not clear whether his death is a result of murder, manslaughter or what the law calls "justifiable homicide" -- a legal term for an intentional death that is not a criminal act.

The other thing we can know for sure is that this case has exploded in the media in...