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What if Iran Had Had Nukes?

SMyles Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 12:49 PM
Maybe a better location should have been picked to create Isreal in the 40's, although I know that's not possible. Everyone has to fight and die over controlling a specific location on earth. How wise. This Land is Mine! (Once again)
Jay Wye Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 7:11 PM
A "better location"?

what better location is there than their own original lands returned to them?
That land is full of ancient Jewish artifacts and constructions. The Al-Aqsa mosque is built upon the Jewish Temple Mount.
(typical for Islamic conquerors,Istanbul USED to be Constantinople,the original seat of the Pope.)
geotay Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 9:31 PM
Roy323 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 10:22 PM
Jay-As a devoted reader of most tracts dedicated to Archeology may I recommend a fairly small, well researched, volume by Dr W E Dever, "Who were the Ancient Israelites and Where Did They Come From"? It tries very diligently to solidify Israel's bono fides in th "Possession" area, but even he admits comes up with very little evidence as to their valid claim(s). (Not Jewish himself, his Wife is) At any rate, the book is a good read!
HermanBB Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 12:55 PM
To SMyles

That was the Middle East's point.

Since Germany was responsible for the Holocaust they felt the State of Israel should have been created in a part of Germany.

It wasn't of course and the U.S. insanely decided to get involved.

And it has caused us nothing but problems ever since.
IsraelFirsterSecond Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 12:59 PM
That land belonged to the Jews 2000 years ago and was non ones until Israel once again became a nation,
Rich Not wealthy Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 6:33 PM
No one wanted it. It was desolate and unworked until the jews showed how it could be productive.
Jay Wye Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 7:14 PM
Jews have lived continuously in that area since they moved there from Egypt.
Many of the returning Jews bought their land from Arabs,after the Ottomans were gone. In the early 1900's there was an International Fund for BUYING land in Palestine. The Arabs responded by making it illegal to sell land to a Jew.
Roy323 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 10:05 PM
Herman/Smyles-glad to see your responses! And I fully CONCUR! Of course, the World will likely never know IF/HOW a German Homeland would have fared, it's unlikely such a mandated State could have created more unrest! As a native West Virginian, I've always wondered how the"Hampton Bay" residents would have reacted had that new, rebel offspring elected to take over the Tidewater? (Been a long time since my "WV History" sessions, but as I recall the secession was not so much about "Slavery" as unfair distribution(s) of tax revenues.)
Israel — as its friends and enemies never forget — is a “one-bomb country.” One nuclear weapon is all it would take to wipe out a nation whose territory is smaller than Djibouti, with a population not as large as that of Burundi — fewer than 8 million people, 20 percent of them Arabs who are enjoying rights denied to Arabs (not to mention non-Arab minorities) elsewhere in the Middle East.

Israel is surrounded by Muslim-majority states with 60 times its population and 650 times its territory. Most of those states refuse even to recognize Israel. Some go further....