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Report: Reid Short on Votes for 'Filibuster Reform'

Smitty41inPB Wrote: Nov 13, 2012 2:30 PM
join what ever group necessary or push whatever legislation to make coal illegal, OH, PA, NY, MI and IL should be required to pay for what they have voted in, so lets help them out.
Panda Wrote: Nov 13, 2012 2:35 PM
They definately deserve it, but Red states shouldn't be saddled with the skyrocketing electricity costs.

But should OH, PA, NY, MI and IL suffer? Absolutely.
Smitty41inPB Wrote: Nov 13, 2012 2:44 PM
it's gonna happen anyway, the skyrocketting of energy prices as the fossil fuel versions are slowly shutoff as this administration has clearly said they are for, though I'm sure they will do it in a manner to continue commerce as they aren't totally ignorant, but by forcing the timetable it will cost those people in those states lots of jobs when they need them most. Now ppl will say this is callous, but they sided with them those that have an interest in doing this, I'm simply agreeing with them and if enough do and the hurt comes maybe when they say elections have consequences they will see both sides of that statement
Panda Wrote: Nov 13, 2012 2:58 PM
Of course. They deserve it. But the effect on our energy costs would be incredible.

An important update to this report from last week -- it appears that Harry Reid is struggling to cobble together the requisite 51 votes to nuke long-standing minority prerogatives in the Senate:
 

Democrats don’t have the 51 votes they need in the Senate to change filibuster rules that could make it harder for the GOP minority to wield power in the upper chamber. Lawmakers leading the charge acknowledge they remain short, but express optimism they’ll hit their goal. “I haven’t counted 51 just yet, but we’re working,” said Sen. Tom Udall (D-N.M.), a leading...