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sevenheart Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 12:30 PM
That's the same thing G W Bush did, he wouldn't veto anything Congress passed because he wanted to respect the "will of the people" via their elected representatives who were not doing the will of the people. If GW would have vetoed as many bills as Gerald Ford, we wouldn't have this big of a mess and he could have saved the GOP from itself (for about 10 more minutes).
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slk Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:22 PM
It's not exactly the same thing, though admittedly close. And as you note, it would have given us 10 more minutes....
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Chris from Kalifornia Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 10:36 AM
All the republicans who stayed home and didn't vote against Obama are no different philosophically than Obama voting present in the senate. Thanks for nothing you lazy idiots.
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slk Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:23 PM
Invalid assumption.
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slk Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:27 PM
Not really. The idea that failing to vote got Obama in may be true, but it is also possible to weigh the current situation, decide there is no real solution and let the idiots have what they want. At some point, people decide there is so much stupid the only solution is to hand stupid a rope and watch the outcome. Propping up stupid by compromises just drags thing out. The triumph of stupid seems pretty clear at this point. Kick the ladder and walk away. Let them deal with the mess they made.
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