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“Hindsight is 20-20”: Boehner Regrets His Fiscal Cliff Strategy

sleroi Wrote: Jan 26, 2013 11:37 PM
I will fully admit that prior to his speakership I was a Boehner fan. His slamming down of the stimulus bill, his impassioned speech at the Obamacare debate, his vow to change the way business was done in Washington. And then he became speaker, turned into a crybaby, backed down in his first fight, and has kept his tail tucked betwen his legs ever since. Despite his previous record, he has been an abyssmal failure, impedance and embarrassment to the republicans. And if his hindsight was so great, then why did he pass the debt ceiling bill, calling it an important sounding and tough 'no budget, no pay' bill when it actually states in the bill that they can't not pay themselves. Retire already, please.
Ronald484 Wrote: Jan 26, 2013 11:47 PM
I wonder just what kind of job you would do as Speaker. I have an idea. You would block everything and as a result you would not be Speaker after the next election, but the minority leader instead. And Obama and the Democrats would once again be able to pass everything they want to do. Congratulations!
The Sloandog Wrote: Jan 26, 2013 11:50 PM
Ronald484 Wrote: Jan 27, 2013 12:00 AM
Why don't ypou just blook at my past comments. If you did, you would understand just how aqssinine and stupid your comment was.

I am a conservative who at times is sickened by the stupidity and lack of being able to put together any logical argument here, and so they can only fill up the space with childish namecalling and grade school sexual innuendo. When I see such lack of argument or lack of facts,, I will call it out, be they supposed conservative or liberal.
The Sloandog Wrote: Jan 27, 2013 12:08 AM
Touchy,touchy....to bad you can't see the folly of your statement " And Obama and the Democrats would once again be able to pass everything they want to do"
Silly boy,the Dems are passing everything they want now.
Ronald484 Wrote: Jan 27, 2013 12:23 AM
Then I guess we have Obama's $450 billion jobs bill? And the tax rate went up for those earning more than $250,000 per year?

To claim that Obama and the Democrats are passing everything they want now only demonstrates a complete lack of any reality.
sleroi Wrote: Jan 27, 2013 12:28 AM
Go back and look at the first standoff Boehner had over the govt. shutdown. he talked tough then offered virtually no spending cuts. The house Republicans called him on this and demanded higher cuts, Boehner said okay to the house, but the next day Biden publicly announced that he and Boehner had agreed on about 35 billion in cuts. Boehner swore this wasn't true, then the following week agreed to a deal with about 35 billion in cuts...which actually turned out to have zero net cuts when all was said and done. That is fact. During the vocal vote over rules changes at the convention he intentionally imposed his will, rather than the consensus. Fact. He stripped several tea party reps of their committee assignments ..
sleroi Wrote: Jan 27, 2013 12:35 AM
...because their views differed from his. Fact. Both on the floor and in interviews just after being elected he unapologetically cried like a baby. Fact. The entire fiscal cliff debacle was handled extremely poorly, to the detriment of the country. A fact which he fully admits. HR325 is being falsely, and insultingly, sold to the public
it is redundant and ineffective and is a complete capitulation in response to Democratic demagoguery and lies. Please explain what good speaker Boehmer has accomplished for our party.
Dave M Wrote: Jan 27, 2013 4:03 AM
Conservative are you? I think not. You don't post like one and from your thinking you don't think like one either. I might have sympathy for Boehner if it weren't for the fact that he showed the same lack of resolve after winning in 2010. It was always the next battle where he would stand his ground. Demand the Senate produce a budget?. Isn't it a little late after 5 years without one? He could have demanded it two years ago when he became Speaker and didn't. He could have gotten some real cuts- and didn't even try.
So he will get no sympathy now.

After the fiscal cliff deal was reached, House Speaker John Boehner made it very clear that he was done negotiating directly with President Obama. Not surprisingly, Boehner’s promise of a new strategy going forward has to do with regrets over how he handled the cliff negotiations.

In a private speech to the Ripon Society on Tuesday, Boehner said that he should have taken a different course after the November election by immediately demanding that the Senate produce a bill to avert the worst parts of a combination of tax increases and spending cuts that were due...