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Intellectuals and Race: Part IV

skip59 Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 12:50 PM
Here's a quote I've been looking for a while. It is appropriate to so many of the conversations about race that we have these days. The author of the quote is Frederick Douglass. It is from 1862. The question he was asked was :What shall be done with the slaves if emancipated? Here is his answer: "Our answer is, do nothing with them; mind your business, and let them mind theirs. Your doing with them is their greatest misfortune. They have been undone by your doings, and all they now ask, and really have need of at your hands, is just to let them alone. They suffer by ever interference, and succeed best by being let alone. Let's try that it has to better than the disaster we face now.
HermanBB Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 1:10 PM
To skip

So blacks "succeed best by being let alone"?

If only you had an example.

Our "interference" has created the highest standard of living for blacks in world history.
rightmostofthetime Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 1:17 PM
But liberal interference in the black culture has kept them down. If we simply expect blacks to succeed or fail without government programs, they would be better off.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 1:18 PM
DR Sowell is my example. Grew up before quotos and affirmative action. My next door neighbor is another example. An average middle class guy. Nice home and he owns the next lot for extra room. Polite kids, who don't wear hats backwards and pants below their butt or father would do what I would have done to my kid for that, kids who study hard and do well in school and if they follow in their fathers footsteps will have an even better life then him without Gov handouts etc and free obama phones.

In other words blacks who adopt American Culture and dont need gov help, but do well when left alone.
Kenneth L. Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 1:41 PM
HermanBB, if you haven't read Thomas Sowell's work on this subject, you should. And Walter Williams, as well.

Blacks were relatively well-off in the '40s and '50s. Sowell talks about growing up in Harlem, Williams in Philadelphia. In each city most black families were intact. Kids were polite and studied in school.

A few generations later these same populations were devastated by the government policies intended to help them. The unintended consequences of these mainly Democrat programs whose perverse incentives reward single parenthood and punish marriage, make work and saving impossible are a scandal. The failure of Democrats to be willing to even discuss this reality is unconscionable.
Kenneth L. Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 1:41 PM
It would be a blessing for all of us if you would abandon your racist line of thought.
shade101 Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 1:50 PM
I believe that's the American Way isn't it? You try, try and try again until you succeed! At least that's what my Parents taught me! I have fallen down many times through out life, picked myself up, and carried on! I may not be rich, but I consider myself successful in my own way!
doc, aka Rich Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 1:58 PM
To HermanBB:
I've been reading Sowell for several years, and I think 3 of his texts. He provides enumerable examples of what you request. If you've been reading his columns for some time you've somehow missed them. If you haven't, I suggest you read more Sowell. Among his many titles is one text exclusively to the topic you've asked. I have the greatest admiration for what I've learned from Sowell texts and I admire the wisdom in his columns. Give him a try and see if you don't agree.

Editor's note: This is Part IV in a series. Part I can be found here. Part II can be found here. Part III can be found here.

Among the many irrational ideas about racial and ethnic groups that have polarized societies over the centuries and around the world, few have been more irrational and counterproductive than the current dogmas of multiculturalism.

Intellectuals who imagine that they are helping racial or ethnic groups that lag behind by redefining their lags out of existence with multicultural rhetoric are in fact leading them into a blind...