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Self-Defense Under Attack

sjpatejak Wrote: Apr 25, 2012 6:27 PM
Has it occurred to anyone that Martin may have seen a Hispanic following him, assumed he was about to be mugged, and gone after Zimmerman in self-defense? Wouldn't stand your ground give that right of self-defense?
M444ss Wrote: Apr 25, 2012 8:12 PM
Even if Martin thought he was acting in self-defense, it doesn't negate Zimmerman's right to self-defense.
M444ss Wrote: Apr 25, 2012 8:12 PM
Even if Martin thought he was acting in self-defense, it doesn't negate Zimmerman's right to self-defense.
Brian1078 Wrote: Apr 25, 2012 7:34 PM
Not really. The thought that you MIGHT be mugged doesn't allow for the use of physical force unless and actual threat has been made. In other words, had Zimmerman threatened Martin, and attack MAY have been warranted, BUT without a reasonably believable threat being made, a physical attack is not warranted. Basically for a threat to be considered an assault, there has to be means and opportunity. A threat from thousands of miles away, probably lacks opportunity, so a physical response is unwarranted Likewise a threat from a significantly smaller individual is generally considered as lacking means and thus doesn't warrant a physical response. Therefore, UNLESS Zimmerman confronted and threatened Martin, attacking Zimmerman was unwarranted.
Greg 161 Wrote: Apr 25, 2012 6:52 PM
Yes, but you can't get your story out if you are dead. The state has to prove their case.
Critics of Florida's self-defense law object to its recognition of a right to "stand your ground" in public places, which eliminated the duty to retreat from an assailant. Yet many of these critics seem to believe they have a duty to stand their ground and never retreat, using George Zimmerman's shooting of Trayvon Martin as a weapon to attack Florida's law, no matter what the evidence shows.

The emphasis on the right to stand your ground is puzzling in the context of the Martin case, since Zimmerman's defense does not seem to rely on it. The 28-year-old neighborhood watch volunteer, who was...