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25 Examples of What America Would Be Like if We Were All Christian Conservative Tea Partiers

showell Wrote: Aug 03, 2012 11:56 AM
20) ...Kids would start out school with the Pledge of Allegiance and a daily prayer. I don't want to live in this America. A country run by theocrats is no better than one run by the leftist occupying the White House currently.
inkling_revival Wrote: Aug 03, 2012 1:34 PM
Oh, for crying out loud...

In a state where the schools are run locally for the benefit of the local community, the presence of a prayer at the beginning of a school day does not even come within 19 light years of "Theocracy." Get your fear-based, anti-religious bigotry back in the cave where if friggin' belongs.

If the community is largely religious, a prayer at the beginning of class is the most natural thing in the world.

Banishing prayers from school is not "neutral," it's anti-religious hostility.
Tired in Texas Wrote: Aug 03, 2012 12:55 PM
Right now, students who chooses to not participate in saying the Pledge of Allegiance are not forced to do so. They are asked to stand quietly and allow others to participate if they so choose. When there was daily Bible reading and prayer in schools (I think I was in the 5th grade), you were not forced to participate, just be quiet. Allowing prayer in school does not constitute formation of a government religion.
MikeinIdaho Wrote: Aug 03, 2012 12:19 PM
Please feel free to leave. Many of us said the pledge EVERY day in school and we were taught REAL
american history, too. no social engineering and no multi-nationalism. Don't like that? No problem, there's the door.
Be a patriot, or be gone.
lamiablk Wrote: Aug 03, 2012 12:06 PM
Have to agree on that one. A theocracy is a theocracy no matter who is in charge of it.

Why not a moment of silence so that everyone can pray (or not) in their own way? I *am* all for the Pledge of Allegiance however ;)
wmou Wrote: Aug 03, 2012 12:12 PM
I am patriotic but refuse to make the Pledge and oppose forcing kids to say it. That is brainwashing.
lamiablk Wrote: Aug 03, 2012 12:17 PM
I can see where you're coming from on that. I have to admit that I've always been a bit torn. I don't advocate forcing kids to say it and I know from experience that if you choose not to say it, bad things can happen. I once spent an entire school year standing in the hall on Monday mornings :) But I do think they should know it and understand exactly what it means.
inkling_revival Wrote: Aug 03, 2012 1:38 PM
Do you advocate "forcing" kids to recite their multiplication tables?

How about "forcing" kids to treat each other kindly on the playground, and share their pencils?

Good GRIEF!! You folks have been so cowed by the hard left that you don't even realize when you're mimicking their lies!!!!!

Children REQUIRE structure. We make them do what they need to learn because they do not know what they need. EVERYTHING we do to instruct kids involves making them do something they would not do otherwise.

If you want kids even to have a choice about religion later in life, you have to introduce them to it just like everything else. Leave it out, and you are actively teaching them that it is not important.
wmou Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 7:59 PM
I do not make pledges. If our country turns bad, I will not be allied with it. Kids have no idea what they are pledging.

The Pledge should be abolished.

If every American was a Christian conservative Tea Partier...

1) …There would be fewer regulations, lower taxes, a business-friendly environment, and a much smaller government that would lead to considerably stronger economic growth and job creation. In fact, we'd probably have to dramatically increase the number of work permits we hand out to foreign workers, not because there are "jobs Americans won't do" (which don't actually exist), but because so many Americans would be employed that we'd have to bring in more people to do all of the available work.

2) ...The richest Americans would have...

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