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Support for Same-sex Marriage Crosses Party Lines

seaview Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 12:47 PM
It seems like we are being sold another bill of goods from the left. The consequences of their bills haven't been good. Free love has been a disaster with 41% of babies now born to single parent households with a future of poverty and emotional starvation. Abortion has advanced to the point of late term within the last week of pregnancy on very viable babies. The institution of marriage was designed for the protection of childen. So they are nutured and reared with a parent from each sex, (the only way they could come into being) to give them the best basis for discernment in a grown up world. By opening marriage to be principally about the individuals and not the future children is in itsself a reckless experiment.
Troglodite Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 12:57 PM
seaview,

Yes, it is a reckless and irresponsible experiment, from your and my point of view. From the point of view of the left, it has been a brilliant success, for exactly the reasons that you mention. The sexual revolution and the decline of marriage have meant a progressive collapse of the "bourgeois virtues" upon which preservation of a free republic must depend.
seaview Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 12:53 PM
What is it children learn about sexuality from an opposite sex household? What does it teach them about themselves and a basis of normalcy? What will the basis of normalcy be as learned in a same sex household? Will they learn easy acceptance and joy in the gender they don't experience? Will they be as torn about their sexuality as homosexuals claim to be as teenagers? Since we are not certain this is inborn or somehow learned behavior, this could be very disruptive to children. This rush to be compassionate can once again have disastrous results for our most vulnerable.
du2 Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 1:49 PM
This is why, legislatures and judges are changing and so is the public. After a while, comments such as yours are seen for what they are: ignorant, ill informed and without evidence or merit. Being dismissive or in denial of the facts and evidence that has come before lawmakers and justices, doesn't help YOUR case. Just because you don't know what YOU are talking about, doesn't mean your intellectual betters don't and are way ahead of you. I agree free love has been a bad turn in society, so it's better to encourage and support monogamous married life in gay couples, and enable the legal ability to protect it. Otherwise, continuing to judge them as if they shouldn't or can't, would make opposing them for it morally wrong.
seaview Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 11:09 PM
Instead of attacking my intelligence it would have been more helpful if you could have listed the facts and evidence of which you speak. However, I am just as certain there are facts and evidence of the opposite view as well. Lawmakers and justices have been known to make societal errors have they not? Common sense and experience can serve us well too.
In an opinion article in the Columbus Dispatch, Ohio Republican Sen. Rob Portman announced that he has changed his mind and now supports same-sex marriage.

He wrote that on learning that one of his sons is gay he "wrestled with how to reconcile my Christian faith with my desire for Will to have the same opportunities to pursue happiness and fulfillment as his brother and sister."

He is not the only prominent Republican to come to this view in this way. Former Vice President Dick Cheney is another.

And at the Conservative Political Action Committee convention, a panel sponsored by the...

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