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Guns and Pensions

sean242 Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 3:41 AM
That's right, through the payroll deductions from the rest of the working population that actually creates the wealth that those fed employees live off. Their deductions are a pittance to the benefit they are "entitled" to. Their salaries are paid by tax dollars, therefore the "deductions" are a sham contribution to currency degradation.
Bigdogoffthechain11 Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 8:42 AM
tell that to our military-the largest group of federal employees in the government. Tell them they're parasites and haven't earned their pay. I dare you.
Bigdogoffthechain11 Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 8:41 AM
The tax revenue of the government is used to purchase goods and services. Once the government has it, it belongs to government, not you. Federal employees, which include our military, are then paid from this revenue stream, to provide services. These employees pay tax on that earned income, and pay retirement from it as well. So your theory is, well, rather silly.
Tacitus X Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 6:30 AM
Exactly. Whether you say a government employees is making 75 thousand per year and paying nothing in taxes and contributions or making 100 thousand and paying 25 thousand in taxes and contributions is the same thing. In reality, government employees contribute nothing to taxes or their own retirement - they're entirely parasitical.
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