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The Thin Veneer of Civilization

SdAufKla Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 10:42 AM
Human nature is immutable and freewill will always allow some to follow the path of evil. All of the wishful thinking and hope of all of the prog-libs in the world will not change these truths. No government power will ever be enough to suppress all human evilness, and in fact, the exertion of such power is always in the hands of humans who are themselves subject to the same truths and liable to follow the path of evil they claim to want to eliminate. Only the liberty and freedom to live one's life while equally negotiating with others who are also at liberty and free can create and sustain a society where evil can be recognized, stopped and punished. A government that attempts to make some more equal than others creates evil.
Sean245 Wrote: Apr 18, 2013 8:13 AM
I agree, the government’s efforts to make things fair as opposed to expanding and protecting liberty will lead to greater oppression. Already we see that some groups have more rights than others; illegal aliens are free to break immigration laws, engage in identity theft and defraud the child tax credit while law abiding citizens are forced to pay for the mess. Affirmative action in the interest of fairness has created government sanctioned discrimination. Hypersensitivity toward Muslims has emboldened our enemies and censored our speech. The evidence is all around us and will continue to constrict our thoughts, speech and liberty until we reach a breaking point.
Donjindra Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 1:31 PM
"No government power will ever be enough to suppress all human evilness,"

No government or barbarian power will ever be enough to suppress all human goodness either.
AZYaateeh Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 3:17 PM
It can get quite close, though. Stalin's Russia, Imperial Japan, and the Tenochca Alliance all come to mind. Just admit now you don't know what that last one is.
Tommy_Maq Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 6:12 PM
Nice Obscurantism you got there, losing the argument for you.

(And by 'nice' I mean like the Old English "nyse" meaning "fool" from the Latin "nescius" meaning "ignorant.")
goldilocks Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 12:03 PM
s, how do you know human nature is immutable

how do you know we are not still evolving
LonePine Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 1:11 PM
Hey there ag'. Had to chuckle there. I hope most of the species is headed in the "above ground" direction. Keep your powder dry.
goldilocks Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 2:47 PM
do you know the origin of keep your powder dry
AZYaateeh Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 3:16 PM
Because once we started building specialized tools, we can do in weeks what evolution would take generations to accomplish.

The "Kurzweil singularity", where biological evolution is replaced by technological, happened in the Upper Paleolithic.
Tommy_Maq Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 6:11 PM
Nice platitude. Got any evidence and/or examples, or were you just making things up, expressing a hope?
ryoung292 Wrote: Apr 18, 2013 12:05 PM
We are still evolving but into what? A more polite society we we have compassion for one another or a society of the Gimmie and I want and to hell with the other?
Tommy_Maq Wrote: Apr 18, 2013 1:59 PM
That's the charm of evolution; it can't be predicted.
NOTE: This column was originally published on October 16, 2002 which was about 13 months after the 9/11 attacks and, although I didn't know it at the time, about 13 months before I went to Iraq.

The Merriam-Webster Unabridged Dictionary defines the word "civilization" thus:

An ideal state of human culture characterized by complete absence of barbarism and non-rational behavior.

In the United States, we pretend to live our entire lives in a constant "State of Positive Assumptions." The central assumption is we DO live in a country "characterized by complete absence of barbarism and non-rational behavior."

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