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Scrap Iron in Texas Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 8:19 AM
Mother of 4- You worry about a tax being "slapped onto everything". What you DON'T see now, is that you are already PAYING that tax. It is called an embedded tax. The following link show how REPLACING these embedded taxes with the Fair Tax at least makes this tax visible. And it will be the ONLY tax you pay. http://www.federalbudget.com/corpwelfare.html
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 8:25 AM
I know this already.

As I said, these taxes are not going to go away.

A. One company's raw material is someone else's product.

B. The costs of coping with this tax will be significant.

Replacing one nightmare with another nightmare is not an improvement.


A simple, flat tax on ALL forms of income is the fairest form of taxation because it does not privilege one group over another and because it gives everyone "skin in the game."
Scrap Iron in Texas Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 8:32 AM
But the Fair tax is only charged to the final consumer.
You seem to think this is some sort of VAT, which it is not.
And the flat tax you want, is what we USED to have, and you see what happened with THAT.

Why is Texas able to operate without an income tax?
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 8:47 AM
There is no "final consumer".

If a company makes steel wire that is its final product. A consumer can buy steel wire as steel wire and use it for dozens of purposes.

Why should that customer pay a tax not charged to a different customer who buys steel wire to use in the stems for artificial flowers? Why should the government reward the production of artificial flowers and not the construction of the fences necessary for training grape vines in home orchards?

What business is it of the government's what purpose a product used for?
Scrap Iron in Texas Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 8:55 AM
NO, you don't understand.
Cost of goods is a cost to a company, and those are not taxed.
If my product is used to manufacture another product, there is no Fair Tax.
Only when that product is purchased at RETAIL is it taxed.
Steve539 Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 2:06 PM
Mother of 4, I agree with Scrap Iron, you don't understand the Fair Tax. As he said, this is not a VAT, Valued Added Tax, this is a consumption tax.
Steve539 Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 2:07 PM
I failed to mention that the "consumption" is at the retail level.
Scrap Iron in Texas Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 8:21 AM
And you worry about a black market.
Sure, there will be cheating, but who is going to "black market" groceries? Or designer clothing?
Most people will still buy at big stores and other retalers who now sell the goods.
Why is there no black market to avoid state sales taxes?
The states collect the tax and then remit the Fair Tax to the feds.
I really wish you would get the favts, and not listen to those who stand to lose influence over the tax code.
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 8:41 AM
Ever heard anything about a place called "The Soviet Union"?

They had black markets in everything.
Robert97 Wrote: Nov 25, 2012 9:23 AM
There certainly are black markets to avoid state taxes. Example: cigarettes trucked to high tax north, from lower tax south.

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