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Everything was discussed, expect the 'facts'
Guy - you and everyone else on here (almost everyone) keeps arguing this stuff as though what the law says, or what legislators said, or what Obama said once, actually means anything. The law is malleable, and Obama has pen and phone and can change any aspect at any time for any reason, and there is very little to be done about it. Ultimately it will end up again and again with the Supremes and whether they argue for or against, O and Shrillery or whomever comes next will just adjust as they see fit. If Republicans try to block, the Left will scream "War on Women" "You hate the poor" and 'conservatives' will back off. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Defining Life

ScienceSquid Wrote: Jul 23, 2014 11:25 PM
sperm and oocyte are incapable of generating a human on their own. They are living cells, but not new human beings.
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Defining Life

ScienceSquid Wrote: Jul 23, 2014 11:22 PM
Studies don't 'show' that life begins at conception - logic does. Conception is the logical beginning for a new human life, since sperm and oocyte cannot form a new human alone. Since the dawn of man, men and women have been aware that the sex act is the way to create a new human being. Optimally a willful consensual act leads to the creation of new human - The event that takes place is fertilization/conception. Everything after that point in just details. Implantation, gastrulation, neurulation, etc. etc. all happen in most cases following fertilization if things are left to run their course. Protect new life following it's creation at fertilization: Anything else is condoning the taking of a new life that, if left alone, will form a human being with the same rights as the rest of us.
Sincere Liberal: "If just one person who would have died without Obamacare is saved, it's worth the cost and inconvenience to everyone else. If you disagree, you want sick people to die."
The American Left is on the same side as Hamas. No surprise that they use the same Alinsky rules: accuse your enemy of the thing your are doing. Tell the big lie and continue telling it. So long as they control the popular press, education, and entertainment, they will continue to get away with it...for a while. Until they upset 'net neutrality' to stifle internet free speech.
good point. Perhaps it's too late.
I'm sure when this gets to Justice Roberts he will say that the 'state' in "Established by the State" means the United State. Legal! Constitutional!
It's just like when FDR lead that Japanese squadron into Pearl Harbor to get the US into World War II. BTW, I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll...
I truly believe that everyone in the cities of Philadelphia and Cleveland voted for Obama - except me.
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