Sure, as long as you include that homosexuality has appeared throughout nature and humanity as long as those things have been studied, and so they too are part of the evolutionary story of our species. That's your problem, you want to pick and choose what science you pay attention to, instead of looking at ALL of it. You also are intent on attaching your normative evaluations of what is an disn't "normal" onto science. Science has no place for such things. Science is not about what should or should not be. Science is about what is, what was, and what will be.

Once again, you've run off the rails. The discussion isn't about anatomy, it's about psychology.

If you think urinals have any relevance in this discussion, or that anyone is confused by why they are there, you're as insane as you accuse others of being. Either that, or you are just determined to win the Nonsequitor of the Year award.

Oh, and I hate to break the news to those obsessed with what is natural, but monogamy amongst humans is NOT natural. We are naturally polyamorous, check out any of the other great apes for confirmation. Or just note the huge proportion of unfaithfulness in marriage.

No, I think it is an idiotic anachronism left over from before we had good birth control, economic equality (sort of) for women, and knowledge of disease transmission. It's a relic of a past time, and it is fading as we speak.

Your an idiot if you think he's talking about revenge. I swear sometimes it seems like you guys are incapable of presenting your opponents' arguments fairly. Aquinas would not approave.

Logical. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

"Science shows that some people are born with a cleft pallet. Does that make it normal?" Yes, it is normal for a certain proportion of a population to be born that way. Or are you going to tell us Satan or the liberals did it? See, you guys keep using this word "normal". I don't think it means what you think it means.

So gay people have a more healthy attitude about their sexuality than you did. Your point? And maybe you haven't noticed, but "saving yourself for marriage" is a pretty rare event for heterosexuals these days as well.

Right, becaue you read scientific journals and have interviewed many scientists, right Camber? Or maybe you just completely made up your claim. I know where my money's bet. And don't worry, humanity has made great strides without help from the likes of you, and will continue to do so.

More argumentum de conjecture, which is all you've got, that is, when you aren't yanking "facts" out of your nether regions.