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What's Right and Wrong With American Christianity

sbrummitt Wrote: Jan 04, 2013 12:13 PM
Personally, I get a bit queasy, when articles written by folks like this put "OUR" dirty laundry on display to a mostly unbelieving, and very unforgiving world. AND, "I" for one don't appreciate one bit being included in the corporate "WE" when "I" don't subscribe to the negatives listed here. "I" think that those with the warped sense of 'what God thinks', 'how Christians should comport themselves', or even 'who He is' remains the responsibility of the individual Christian in his/her circumstance. AND that is assuming that they are indeed genuine Christians! The vast majority of the negative things listed here, have been perpetrated by those that don't meet any BIBLICAL definition of a Christian regardless of what they may call themselves!
HeraldOfGalactus Wrote: Jan 04, 2013 12:26 PM
Your points are valid on many levels because Christianity as a whole is so diverse in America. But by the same token, not everyone agrees on what the "biblical definition of Christianity" really is. Most agree on how the bible reads. Very few agree on what the bible means. That's where your logic is somewhat flawed.
sbrummitt Wrote: Jan 04, 2013 12:51 PM
Where 'exactly' is MY logic faulty? The basics of what is Biblical is not in dispute between true Christians. What is truly "Biblical", is "Biblical" regardless of the mistaken beliefs of "mear men". Dont take me wrong or out of context - there are some true Christians (deceived but true) in the Roman Catholic Church but the RCC at best is no better than the worst of cults. The Bible plainly states that we should "call no man Father" but they do and that is just the tip of their UnBiblical iceberg! The 'world' in their ignorance lumps us all together, and thinks that we all live under the same rock. That is my problem with this article.
sbrummitt Wrote: Jan 04, 2013 1:05 PM
I just need to tweak something that someone would validly point out as being illogical, unless I clarify my statement. What I should have said is: what is genuinely Biblical is not in dispute among true Christians who DO NOT impose any ExtraBiblical sanctions on things, which are clearly spelled out in black and white (and sometimes red), ie. the source of the subsequently mentioned 'deception', which even affects some "true Christians". There, if that doesn't satisfy you then nothing will.
Jack2894 Wrote: Jan 04, 2013 2:46 PM
DOesn't satisfy me because you are engaging in the "one true Scotsman" fallacy. Your claim that true Christians all agree on what the BIble says is meaningless, because you will define "true" Christian to mean whomever agrees with you.

Because of this fallacy, your entire argument is illogical.

As I prepare to spend a week teaching the book of Jeremiah to Chinese pastors in Hong Kong, I’ve been reflecting on the strengths and weaknesses of the Church in America. Regrettably, the list of negatives is longer than the list of positives.

To be clear, though, I’m speaking of the circles in which I travel, meaning evangelical Christian circles, so my observations might not apply to other Christian groups in America.

What are some of the strengths of the American Evangelical Church?

1) We are at the forefront of feeding the poor and providing disaster relief worldwide. From the...