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To Save Traditional Marriage, End State Involvement in Marriage

Sarah266 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 1:33 PM
They would not have to marry in the Church. There could be a legal contract to enter into marriage, much as a legal partnership or corporation sets up.
TommyMaq Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 3:13 PM
"The fundamental right at issue is the right to marry. "

And because marriage is a contract, the issues are the 4th and 14th amendment;

Free association, and equal protection of your CONTRACTUAL rights by the courts.
Jack2894 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 2:33 PM
Meaning that even if her definition were accurate, marriage would meet her definition.
Earl29 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 2:00 PM
That isn't what you said to Sarah, Jack. She described a contract and you said that was what marriage is.
Jack2894 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 1:51 PM
This is untrue. The fundamental right at issue is the right to marry. Its not a contract issue.
DagNabbit Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 1:50 PM
In this case, there are elements of that contract that DO have an effect beyond the contract. The right not to testify against your spouse is the first that comes to my mind. A private contract, or civil union, would not accomplish that. Ipso facto, the fact that straight people can marry and gay people can't is discriminatory.
Earl29 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 1:42 PM
Exactly, Sarah. The fundamental right, as far as government is concerned, is the right to contract. Dictating terms of contract is not the business of government.
Jack2894 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 1:40 PM

Within the next few months, Justice Anthony Kennedy will likely rule that same-sex marriage is mandated by the Constitution of the United States. The ruling will offend both common sense and Constitutional law. But it will nonetheless become the law of the land. With it, states will be forced to recognize same-sex marriages; same-sex marriage will enter the public school lexicon; religious institutions will be forced to recognize same-sex marriages or lose their tax-exempt status. Religious Americans will be forced into violating their beliefs or facing legal consequences by the government. The First Amendment's guarantee of religious liberty will largely become...