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The Growing Case For Life

Sanity102 Wrote: May 22, 2013 3:12 PM
I'd love the pendulum to be swinging toward life, but I fear medical breakthroughs has just the opposite effect. You have to remember that millions of women have killed their children and rather than admit that, they and all those in their lives are open to "post abortion" where a family has the right to choose to continue the life of a child clearly unable to feed and care of itself (less than a year old) and the "compassionate" removal of the sick, handicapped, and elderly.
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The Growing Case For Life

Sanity102 Wrote: May 22, 2013 2:26 PM
That is what they say about rape and it used to bother me because unlike the 99% other reasons for seeking an abortion, the conception of the baby was not due to "forced" actions; the rape victim did not willingly take a chance. Then I thought of all the times we are called to step up to the plate; a doctor cannot refuse to render aid just because he is late for a dinner party. A mother of a screaming 2 year old cannot just walk out of the house and not care for the child because it's "forced labor". And once a child is born, no one cares who her father was, nor do they expect her to pay for the sins of her father with her life.
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The Growing Case For Life

Sanity102 Wrote: May 22, 2013 2:14 PM
Let's be clear, you are pro-abortion, pro-leave it up to the woman, pro-not the guy's problem. You are NOT for a woman choosing to prostitute her body, sell her organs, or put drugs in her body right? You are not for a parent choosing to know if their minor daughter is having a medical procedure done to her or if a father is choosing to have sex with his children right? You are not for husbands choosing to rape their wives or women beating their kids right? Pro-choice is such an inaccurate term, one that allows people to hide behind the fact that abortion is the killing of a human being and that they are advocating it.
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The Growing Case For Life

Sanity102 Wrote: May 22, 2013 1:56 PM
I don't think Mike was being serious. The irony as stated in this article was that abortion on demand was supposed to make abortion an option for all women, rich and poor, yet all it has done is destroy those the rich and powerful (law makers) deem unworthy. The Dems who are suppose to champion the poor and the minority has in effect, used Roe vs. Wade to wipe out those two voting blocks. And yes, I agree with you, guilt is what women live with and abortion allows the guy to walk away, not the woman...she will never walk away.
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Gosnell and the Abortion Universe

Sanity102 Wrote: May 21, 2013 6:18 PM
A person can get burnt out. Most of my family and friends are either pro-life or know better than to say something to me. I used to argue with anyone who showed an ignorance of the issue; I've given lectures and written articles, but now I just say to anyone who parrots the idea that this is a woman's right, you really don't want to get into a discussion about abortion with me, for I will dust you, count on it.
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Gosnell and the Abortion Universe

Sanity102 Wrote: May 21, 2013 6:10 PM
A while ago a co-worker was upset because a politician had voiced the opinion that an incest victim should not have an abortion because the baby was near to term. I told her "ok, let us say that the girl had scheduled an abortion for Monday morning but gave birth Sunday evening. Should we kill the baby? Remember it's the same baby that was going to be killed on Monday." My co-worker replied, "Oh don't be stupid, of course we can't kill the baby!" I asked, "is it because the baby is born?" She nodded. "And you can see the child?" She hesitated but again nodded. "Ok, then, if the baby is born on Sunday, how about we throw a blanket over the baby and stab it to death? You won't see it and the baby conceived by a 11 year old and her father would be as dead as she/he would be via an abortion. Is that what you are advocating?" She hasn't spoken to me since.
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The Abortion Alternative

Sanity102 Wrote: May 21, 2013 3:10 AM
Maybe he wants to be a father? Come on, you have to know that being "wanted" frequently depends on the guy, if he wants to marry the woman and wants to be a father, all of a sudden, the baby becomes "wanted." Oh yes, there are some incidents where the woman insists on having an abortion but that is far and few. The entire idea that this is a woman's issue and a woman's right is a farce. If you look up the history of legal abortion, you will find a guy finding it unfair to have to pay 18 years for a one night of pleasure. Legal abortion is an option that allows the guy to play but not pay. Paying is left solely to the woman who either lives with a lifetime of guilt or a rough road of caring for a child.
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The Abortion Alternative

Sanity102 Wrote: May 21, 2013 2:56 AM
I'm not advocating we tell them to "go for it". The question was why don't we just tell them to control themselves and the answer is because they don't want to, because no amount of public condemnation has stopped people from sleeping around. Are you so young that you don't remember when having a child out of wedlock was considered the ultimate of shame? Yet, it still happened. The only difference was guys were expected to "make an honest woman" out of the girl. He was expected to help raise the kid. He was expected to do the right thing. Abortion allowed the man to leave it up to the woman. Which is why I call abortion the get out of jail free card-for men.
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The Abortion Alternative

Sanity102 Wrote: May 20, 2013 6:30 PM
Let me share you another abortion story; this one with a bit of a twist. My child's friend was the product of a rape of a 13 year old. For some reason, the child's luck was with bad adoptions that fell thru and as she got older, the foster care system. But she never gave up and eventually finished college and was in med school (all on full scholarships) when she met her birth mother. The woman who had learned of the horrible childhood, apologized for not trying to find a home for the child and giving the child to the government to handle. The child/now a woman told her not to apologize for she gave her the best gift: life. The chance to reach for the brass ring.
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The Abortion Alternative

Sanity102 Wrote: May 20, 2013 6:20 PM
Adoption is such a sacrifice; where the best for the child is paramount. If you listen to someone thinking of abortion vs. adoption, you will hear "I couldn't live with the idea that I have a child out there." The mother is thinking of themselves, not the child. The truly sad part is that they do not realize that the abortion will haunt them far beyond the where is my child guilt.
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