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Prepare for Fiscal Doom

SageAdvice68 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 10:37 AM
When I watch what is happening today I am always reminded of something John Adams offered during the birth of this nation.... “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Well folks, after 230 plus years we finally voted ourselves a big dose of the immorality John Adams knew we could not survive.
FA Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 2:35 PM
Well, it isn't just happening now, it's been a steady stream downhill for at least 80+ years. I knew we were a goner when Bill Clinton, one of the most immoral people ever, was not removed from office for lying under oath, numerous affairs including a possible rape, a lifelong habit of not being able to keep his pants zipped up, and the refusal of our media to publish what they all knew about Clinton. I am merely amused by the prospect of Petraeus resigning over an affair, after what Clinton did for years without any repercussions.
natch Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 11:15 AM
Is this the same John Adams who signed the "Treaty of Tripoli" that extolled "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."?
natch Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 11:28 AM
Is this the same John Adams who preceded Thomas Jefferson who is known for his how famous penned letter to the Danbury Baptists in which he wrote in part "...separation between Church and State" phrase?
IsraelFirsterSecond Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 11:43 AM
Both stupid retorts there natch. Neither having anything to do with the founding of our country, but of government intervention.
Oldschool7 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 12:01 PM
The US was founded on Judea/Christian Philosophy and Ethics . . . only an uninformed loon would argue otherwise . . .
All western Democracies since the Magna Carta in the 12th century are based on this same Philosophy . . .
Progressive/lieberal belief is based on Marxist principles . . . could this be why the never seem to work?
SageAdvice68 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 12:54 PM
Yo snatch, did I personally make any mention of John Adams rather general use of the word "religion"....Or did I point to the immorality which currently infests this nation?

BTW: Snatch, what percentage-American have you been assigned?
SageAdvice68 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 12:55 PM
Yo snatch, did I personally make any mention of John Adams rather general use of the word "religion"....Or did I point to the immorality which currently infests this nation?

BTW: Snatch, what percentage-American have you been assigned?
FA Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 2:36 PM
Irrelevant here--find some other blog.
A American Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 2:45 PM
Natch now tell the whole story and all the details instead of one blerb. dont be just another troll!
skywalker58 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 3:39 PM
Read the entire letter and other writings of Jefferson. The whole separation of church and state has been pushed way beyond the intent by athiests who want moral rellativism. Besides, whether the founders were "Christian" or not, they all believed in a moral code that held people to a high standard. They would be horrified by today's moral standards.
Carl469 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 4:19 PM
Good for you. John Adams, for the record, deeply mistrusted church power. And he was a Unitarian, the least fervid of all denominations.
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 5:49 PM


There was a thriving business in that day; the slave trade. Not just negroes from Africa, but captured Indians caught by rival Indian tribes and sold to white slavers. Right up until the 1800's. we were quite the racists but prosperous at the time, too.

Now we're multi-cultural and politically correct; and going broke.

Curtis108 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 9:19 PM
Willing to bet he more deeply mistrusted government power

OK, perhaps doom is too strong a word, but then again, perhaps it is not. 

In either event, 2013 is not shaping up to be a banner year for the economy. And it’s not just or even mostly because of the fiscal cliff.

Our financial system is not stronger now than it was in 2008 when it finally collapsed under the weight of crashing real estate prices that fell all the harder because they were ballasted by plenty of government guaranteed debt.

In fact, prepare right now for the Next Great Bailout. Because this time around, the federal...