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On Obamacare, I Won't Comply

RodT Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 11:31 AM
Anyone that can believe that buying 30 million plus insurance policies for the sick, lame and lazy, that couldn’t or wouldn’t pay for their own health care, will also believe whatever the progressives tell them about the greatness of Obamacare. I am 73 years old, on Medicare that I paid into for 50 years, and have been blessed with good health. My health costs are restricted to twice yearly Dr visits and some pills he prescribed. Since 2010 and Obamacare, my GAP Insurance has gone up 61.6%, ($109.10 > $177.21 per month) my out of pocket cost for the pills have gone up 53.8% ($550.92 > $1,024.96) and that’s after the Plan D freebie.
kenneth416 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 12:17 PM
Boy, I am surely grateful for ObamaCare. I needed a quadruple heart by-pass operation which would have cost me more than $100,000, but I put off getting insurance until ObamaCare passed and the insurance company was REQUIRED to insure me, despite my pre-existing condition. So, as soon as the law was signed, I got insured, then had the operation. I had to pay only about $1200 in deductibles and passed the remainder of the cost on to the insurance company. Now that I have recovered, I cancelled the insurance, confident that, if necessary, I can always get insured again. Praise be to Obama.
wtmoore1 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 1:24 PM
Which is exactly why that's not possible under Obamacare--and why private insurance companies were so afraid the individual mandate would be struck down while the rest of the law remained with no way to pay for it.
Steve539 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 8:55 PM
Dude, you are wrong again! You can drop the insurance by paying the penalty which is significantly lower than the insurance cost. Read the bill. Saying something aggressively does not make your lies true.
RodT Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 11:33 AM
So where’s the Obamacare savings?

The messiah promised a $2,500.00 savings, he also claimed it would cut the deficit. Instead the increase to the deficit is now admitted to be in access of $1.6 Trillion.(And climbing)

Only a recent graduate of public education would believe Obamacare will save anything but the slush fund Congress needs to stay in office.


rickmcq Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 11:41 AM
"sacraldge, noun, a meaningless word used to demonstrate the inability of a Lefty to form a coherent thought."
gungy Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 11:57 AM
But RodT you have to pay for all the illegals who are now insured.
Drifter33 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 12:03 PM
wtmoore1 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 12:58 PM
So Rod clearly doesn't understand the difference between deficit spending and the national debt...

But aside from that, saying that healthcare costs have gone up in the last few years tells us nothing. Healthcare was always going to be more expensive in the coming years, the question is whether it is rising compared to how it would have risen had we left the system unchecked. Which is a much more difficult question to answer, and in truth, one that we don't have all the facts to really make a sound judgment at this time. But that doesn't stop conservatives from claiming to be able to do so.
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 1:33 PM
Again, you are either ignorant or dishonest. Had healthcare costs merely continued to climb at or near previous levels you would have a valid point, but they did no such thing. The pretense that we don't have the facts is pure fiction.
Steve539 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 8:51 PM
Well, Dude, the CBO scored the bill twice, once with the parameters and estimates given them by the Dems. It scored as a medical savings. Then the CBO scored it with some realistic data and it scored as a significant cost over 10 years. The HuffPost did not carry that so you probably missed it!
SpaceVegetable Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 9:38 PM
I've run the numbers and my costs are going to go up by several thousand dollars thanks to O-Bominable-Care. And that doesn't even factor in the inevitable premium increases or the extra costs the medical device tax will add (I'm going to have at least 7 joint replacements in the next few years, plus will have to buy mobility aids like a scooter or wheelchair). Lucky me.

Americans know instinctively that when liberals start talking about deficit reduction that’s it’s just a case of the fantods, as Huckleberry Finn would say. And say what you will about old Huck, but he knew a couple of frauds when he saw them.       

No matter what liberal “Wonks” like Ezra Klein say about the historically dumb healthcare “reform” known as Obamcare, Americans are uneasy about it.

And they should be.

The best thing- as Democrat strategist James Carville admitted last year- that could have happened for the Democrats is for the Supreme Court to have tossed out the...