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Moral Duties in a Muddied World

RockinRickOwen Wrote: May 05, 2012 3:19 PM
Tacitus, an excellent book to read on this subject, or rather, the roots of this subject, is Mortimer Adler's "Ten Philosophical Mistakes." In one chapter, he deals with the "idea" that the only valid way to truth was through science, history, math, etc., while anything philosophical, theological or spiritual is relegated to "mere opinion." Thus, "faith" is pitted against reason. The version you cited is a straw man argument. Faith is NOT belief unsupported by evidence, but merely being persuaded that something is true. Faith may be persuaded by evidence, scientific or otherwise, or by insanity, or anything in between. Faith may be directed towards truth or falsehood (communists place an awful lot of faith in government, for instance
Donjindra Wrote: May 05, 2012 6:25 PM
"Tacitus, an excellent book to read on this subject, or rather, the roots of this subject, is Mortimer Adler's "Ten Philosophical Mistakes." In one chapter, he deals with the "idea" that the only valid way to truth was through science, history, math, etc., while anything philosophical, theological or spiritual is relegated to 'mere opinion.'"

Adler is not too convincing on that.

Tacitus X Wrote: May 05, 2012 5:23 PM
Faith is belief unsupported, or contrary to, evidence. Again, if you have evidence, there is no need for faith, you have reason. "Being persuaded" isn't a replacement for reason. A good example are those you mentioned who were persuaded to be communists. Reason isn't infallible because new evidence can always come in, but it does have the advantage of being corrected asthat new evidence comes in. Not so with faith, which people will cling to despite evidence to the contrary -- otherwise it isn't "faith," but reason with insufficient evidence Not sure where you got the notion that philosophy is incompatible with reason. Perhaps you should re-read Adler.
Jon.nine Wrote: May 08, 2012 2:26 AM
If you believe you exist then that is a matter of faith. Reason can not answer anything unless directed to do so by faith. Reason has no starting point--it must be assumed which is faith.
traitorbill Wrote: May 05, 2012 3:26 PM
Only a belief in God can accommodate miracles.

Vatican City -- In an election season in which the White House has instituted a policy that puts unprecedented limits on the constitutional right to freedom of religion, questions of conscience, duty and spiritual and moral obligation are of critical importance.

A conference at the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences had some related thoughts and warnings. The Vatican think tank was founded in 1994 and is meant to facilitate a continuing dialogue between faith and reason, between the social sciences and the social thought of the Church.

To an American sitting in on the conference, some of its sessions amounted to...

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