It would be off topic if pro-life was just about the unborn, But it's not,it is also how you treat the living. Plus you call me demented, should I let that slide, No!!! Yes, I brought up how demented this country can be. Plus in a government for the people, by the people, it say's alot about you and your lack of respect for life. Will you honor the ruling of the Supreme Court and the treaties, or will you continue your lack of respect for the life of the living. The trouble I have with your view of is that it only focuses on the unborn. For every name you call, remember it takes one to know one.

Ok, give me dozens of passages that prove your point. Like you wrote Jeremiah 1:5, I'm sure you can write the other passages without taking up much space. I'm willing to keep an open mind, but all you have done is call me names. I read Jeremiah 1:5, Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. When I read this passage a few years ago it did make me think about Leviticus 17:14 and what that meant. I felt Jeremiah didn't really explain when life begins. I would love to read some of the passages you talk about, but, I have to admit Leviticus 17:14 really sticks with me. Yes the womb is a sanctuary, I believe it happens after the fetus is surviving on it's own blood. Other than when life begins, our views seem to be the same.

Off topic, your the one who brought up child sacrifice. Killing Indian children is a form of sacrifice so you can form a nation. That is the worst kind of baby killing. Pro-life is not just action against the unborn, it is also the actions toward the living. What does your God think? Maybe Matthew 7:21-23 or maybe Matthew 15:8-9. I'm a fraud? I never said I was a Christian. When politicians decided to also be our spiritual leaders, I decided to read the Bible. I'm sure I don't understand some of what I read. At that point you should help me to understand, but you only resort to name calling. Plus, are you so perfect that you understand everything you have read in the Bible. I only wrote what I think about what I read.

America is a nation form by committing genocide against the nations of this land. It was believed, there were 12-18 million people of the nations, when the Indian genocide ended in 1890 there was only 250,000 people left among the nations. To remind how demented this country is, I have a picture of the mass grave at Wounded Knee next to a picture of a mass grave at Auchwitz. No respect for living and when you throw bodies into a mass grave you show no respect for the dead. So what will you do? Will you uphold the ruling of the Supreme Court or the treaties (Remember America signed over 400 treaties with the nations. Not a single treaty honored by the United States). Pro-life also includes the living, not just the unborn.

Leviticus 17:14 is the only passage in the Bible that say's what constitutes life. Yes their are many passages written about life in the womb but none of them say when that life begins in the womb other than Leviticus 17:14? So what does Leviticus 17:14 mean and what is meant by the life of every creature is in it's blood?

If America is truely pro-life please explain to me the the death of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children, while we searched for the mythical Weapons Of Mass Destruction. We said that we were trying to free the Iraqi people. Many will not enjoy this freedom because they are dead. Next time people think about going to war, why don't they take the fight to an open field and let the warriors fight the battle. As long as the innocent unarmed citizens of war are killed pro-life is a word that amounts to nothing.

Annfan, Hitler once wrote, "We must clean Europe, the way America cleansed it landscape". Tsalagi children were God's creation as well. This nation made sure mother and child did not live. Many say to me, that was the past. I feel as long as the ruling of the Supreme Court and treaties continue to be broken, that is the past, the present and the future. What I find sad about you is how you care more about the unborn than setting thing straight with the nations of this land and the living. What should I expect from the greedy, violent thieves.

It might seem strange, but you are not pregnant the first week or two of the time allotted to your pregnancy. Conception typically occurs two weeks after your last period. This means your period is counted as part of your pregnancy, even though you are not pregnant. The first week or two is 7-14 days, add that to the 18 days, you get 25-32 days. 25-32 days is 4-5 weeks. Some of the sites I get information from are women talking to each other about their pregnancy. On average most women hear the babies heart at 4-5 weeks, some heard it earlier and others later. Other information, I got from the Mayo Clinic and my doctor. As for the doctor, it takes one full of dog doo doo to know another full of dog doo doo.

Annfan 777 I wish I could have answered this earlier, but I had to go to work. I hope you come back to read what I have written.

The problem with both sides is the attitude, my way or the highway approach to life and politics. You are free to believe that life begins at conception and I would never trample your beliefs. But, at the same time you should not force your beliefs on others. After reading Leviticus 17:14 I will always believe that life begins when the fetus survives on it's own blood. I feel the key words are, it's blood. Until the 17th day or two months I do not believe it is a member of the human species. You're right, there is know middle ground once life has began. We just differ as to when life begins.