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Poverty Nonsense

Robert1824 Wrote: Oct 17, 2012 8:07 PM
This is breathtakingly stupid . There ARE a great many genuinely poor people in America who live lives that are anything but filled with the kinds of luxuries Williams describes . And to say that "the average poor person has more living space that the non-poor in Sweden,France and the U.K. is eyond idiotic . Sweden ! one of the most advanced and prosperous nations on earth ! Unbelievable ! The poor in America may not be as destitute as those in India and other third-world nations, but they are genuinely poor, and struggling to get by .
wsimpson Wrote: Oct 18, 2012 8:07 PM
Robert, I think the statistics bare out Dr Williams claim about the standard of living of the poor in America. The studies are out there, and I believe Dr Williams can identify them for you. I don't have them right off hand, but I have seen them.
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Oct 17, 2012 11:21 PM
We are not responsible for your ignorance (or the fact that it is youer defining feature). We do, of course, give you credit for announcing in advance that your comments will be breathtakingly stupid, but everyone already knew that. Dr. Williams did not say that real need does not exist (in either the US or Sweden - it's true in both); those aspects are what the AVERAGE person designated as poor in the US has. Moreover, that the average "poor" person in the US has more living space than the avergage person in EVERY country but one (the US) is simple fact.
JMSilver Wrote: Oct 17, 2012 10:56 PM
Have you ever been to Europe? It doesn't matter the wealth of a nation, Europeans do live in smaller living spaces than Americans, relative to their income level. Specifically for Sweden, the average living space 1000 sf vs the average US is 2100 sf. The average poor American living space is 1400 sf, and subsidized on the government dole. The report that he is citing is data collected from the US Census Bureau. Maybe you should take time to read it before you post an ill-formed opinion that it cannot be possible US poor have larger living spaces because Swedes are more advanced and prosperous.
Ken6226 Wrote: Oct 17, 2012 9:50 PM
My parents grew up in the Great Depression. They both lived in houses with no electricity or running water. My Dad's family owned their own land, but my Mom's family didn't even have that much. Her parents were sharecroppers. They lived in houses with shabby walls and leaky roofs, and my grandmother made their clothing from flour and feed sacks. Their only source of heat was a wood-burning stove, and they didn't know what air-conditioning was.

The lesson? Most Americans today don't know what real poverty is. Grow up.
Bulldog332 Wrote: Oct 17, 2012 9:11 PM
Of course you disagree with Dr. Williams. Kool Aid drinkers like you always do. Perhaps if you pulled your head from your rectal cavity and came up for air, you might begin to think a bit more clearly.

Molon Labe
De Oppresso Liber
soccerman Wrote: Oct 17, 2012 9:10 PM
Please cite the sources of the information you use in your response. It appears to be a typical libtard comment containing glittering generalities ("here ARE a great many genuinely poor people in America who live lives that are anything but filled with the kinds of luxuries Williams describes .") with no substantiating data. Dr. Williams is a scholar, and he cites sources in his article. Obviously you are not familiar with scholarly research or writing. Just return to the "feel good" liberal websites where facts are scarce.
Ken6226 Wrote: Oct 17, 2012 9:47 PM
Like most liberals, Robbie doesn't like to let facts get in his way.
wsimpson Wrote: Oct 18, 2012 8:08 PM
Here's a recent statement frequently suggested by leftist academics, think tank researchers and policymakers: "People were not just struggling because of their personal deficiencies. There were structural factors at play. People weren't poor because they made bad decisions. They were poor because our society creates poverty." Who made that statement and where it was made is not important at all, but its corrosive effects on the minds of black people, particularly black youths, are devastating.

There's nothing intellectually challenging or unusual about poverty. For most of mankind's existence, his most optimistic scenario was to be able to eke out enough to subsist...