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The Truth About Guns

Robert1260 Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 3:07 PM
What did so called conservative republican leadership do to protect ourselves from further 9/11 attacks? Hmmm. A handful of guys from Saudi Arabia use box cutters to kill 3000 Americans and republicans create the massive Homeland Security Agency, go to war with Afghanistan then Iraq costing hundreds of thousands more lives and 4 Trillion dollars. But asking congress to enact simple common sense legislation to help curb guns and ammo from getting into the hands of future mass murderers is too much to ask?
m90 Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 5:08 PM
Clinton got a PDB in 1998 that said the same things as the one Bush got in 2001. Bush quintupled the anti terorism efforts over the Clinton administrations.


Information about a group of arab men who were taking pilot training but were not interested in learnng to take off and land was never transfered from the Clinton administration to the Bush administration.
Tacitus X Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 4:41 PM
Many errors in your 9/11 argument. Few of the supporters of HSA were "conservative Republicans." In the aftermath of 9/11 these measures had broad support from centrists, liberals, Democrats - most of whose rhetoric was far more bellicose than Bush's (no "conservative" btw). Also, the fact is that we haven't had another 9/11 attack - something no one was predicting at the time. So your mockery fails in the face of historical fact. Last, claiming some notion is "common sense" doesn't make it so. It actually has to make sense.
Tacitus X Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 4:35 PM
The problem with your plan is your bizarre belief that a mass murderer undeterred by murder laws wouldn't dream of violating a gun regulation. The only effect of the laws you are proposing would be to disarm law abiding potential victims, thereby encouraging mass murderers. It's no coincidence that almost all of these mass murders take place in "gun free zones" rather than at gun shows or shotgun ranges.
OriginalWinghunter Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 4:29 PM
Typical Useful Idiot drivel! Pile on a string of stone ignorant rants of which each has long since been FULLY explained!

Shameless, stupid and whiney is no way to crawl through life, Bobbette.

How Barney Frank Helped The 9/11 Hijackers 9/22/04 http://bit.ly/hOZyYQ

Newly Discovered Documents Show that Barney Frank Has Significant Blame For 9/11 http://bit.ly/ZS71Y

We Went to War http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/236jmcbd.asp

NO ILLEGAL LAW has EVER stopped a single criminal or nutcase from obtaining any weapon they wanted which means, idiot, laws only affect the law-abiding.

Come back when you've grown a spine, coward!


Louie13 Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 4:01 PM
Robert, where is your cry to outlaw box cutters? The reason the Muslim Terrorists used box cutters is that guns were outlawed on the plane, it was easier to get box cutters past security. If guns had been allowed, the passengers would have taken these guys out. Why are you always calling for the murder of our constitutional rights?
Bubbalou Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 3:48 PM
Yes. thanks for the entertaining liberal rant
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 3:35 PM
The 911 hijackings could have been prevented if the passengers had resisted from the start. But left-libs like you had taught people victimhood rather than resistance.
Robert1260 Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 3:44 PM
So I caused 3000 Americans to die on 9/11. I sure hope you don't raise your 4 children to weigh in on issues they know little about or blame people they don't even know like their Mother does.
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 3:54 PM
Yes, actually, you and others who hold like views DID cause the 9-11 atrocity.

You are the ones who promoted the policies of weakness that encouraged the terrorists.

You are the ones who promoted a culture of victimhood and passivity, who set as official policy that aircraft passengers should cooperate with hijackers rather than resist them, who deprived passengers who wanted to resist of effective arms, and likewise disarmed the pilots.

To blame left-libs for the consequences of the policies they endorsed is completely just.
OriginalWinghunter Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 4:05 PM
We're going to teach them to hunt the insane down and throw them in rubber rooms where they belong - Need a ride??
Robert1260 Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 3:13 PM
If it is a God given right to bear arms,why stop at guns and ammo? Why not allow everyone to have as many nuclear weapons as they like? So called conservatives in the same breath adamantly oppose Iran exercising their right to have nukes? Hypocrites.
Robert1260 Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 3:37 PM
Never Again Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 3:59 PM
This is the best you can do? Equating a free society with a 2nd Amendment to the nutjob dictators who want to kill your protected butt? "their right to have nukes?" I guess allah says that because God doesn't. Now call more names to bolster your "argument"....
Original Saepe__Expertus Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 4:09 PM
DEAR VERY DIM ROBERT...nukes? You REALLY ARE that ignorant, huh? And...do you ACTUALLY think that IRAN should have nukes? A better question would be...do you ACTUALLY THINK? Answer...HELL NO! You just take any assertion, over-amp it by a factor of 10, and then toss out the converse on order to mock the other's argument. You literally have NO convictions you can call your own. You are merely here to be AGAINST!
m90 Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 5:10 PM
Dear Comrade Robert1269:

Go buy or build a nuke. Saddam couldn't. Bin Laden couldn't. Iran and North Korea are starving their people to death to finance their nuclear programs. But YOU think they're on the markdown aisle at Walmart?
Jay Wye Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 5:20 PM
Strawman. there goes any credibility you might have had.
Bubbalou Wrote: Aug 04, 2012 6:37 PM
you live in peace and freedom provided to you by others. How do you live with yourself?

The tragedy in Aurora, Colorado, has led to a lot of unfortunate misinformation about firearms. Let's try to add some facts to the justified emotion.

Are Some Guns More Dangerous than Others? The shooter in Aurora had three firearms when he entered the theater: a pump action shotgun, a semiautomatic rifle and a semiautomatic handgun.

In a closed, crowded setting like a movie theater, the shotgun was probably the most lethal of the three. Every shotgun shell can spray a half-dozen or more pellets, each capable of killing or maiming a person. Twelve-gauge shotguns often fire five shells, and...