Again, let's drop the polical football and talk about what can be done to reel in an out of control union

Great argument.

Most of didn't care for George Bush's spending habits either.

What are you saying? If not for the government these people would have taken their children to the nearest river and thrown them in since they were unable to care for them - is that your point? Did the SEIU have a hand in crafting this decades old SS benefit? Since they were formed after this law was enacted I would say no. What more this is a mandate enacted by the federal government for the state to honor. That being the case, there were vote from both sides of the aisle to get this done. Weak argument.

What falsehood are you speaking of? Is the union not taking $30 a month from these people? Was the legislation not enacted by Jennifer Granholm's siganture? Please tell me I would like to share in your outrage.

So, what's your point and how is it relevant to what is happening here? Is this one of those your guy did it so shut up things? How aboout this... let's just deal with what is front of us. A corrupt over reaching legislation was enacted on citizens who will not be aided in any way by this awful entity. Let's fix that and then you can move on the history lessons.

What do you think the tea party protests were about? The very things that you have listed are exactly why conservative citizens are saying "no more" to the people that are supposed to represent them and are not. The media is depicting these citizens as being anti-Obama, but clearly the first people to feel the heat were the Republicans that voted to install these government growing policies. The citizens on the left could stand to weed their garden as well.

Here is the difference between the two broadly painted groups that are the subject of the article... I am both a university professor and an evengelical. It would come as a very large surprise to many of those making comments here that I am a professor in a science field - chemistry. I can freely express my scientific opinions without reservations when I am among my Christian peers, however, my opinions about man made global warming and intelligent design are censored with a very heavy hand at the university. This extends to any arena off campus that a student might hear me express my doubts. Who indeed is more irrational? I would have to say the one that is afraid of dissent.

Amen. Preach it brother Mike

A little revisionist history? We both know that the tax rate for ALL Americans including the "wealthy" were drastically cut over Reagan's years in the White House.