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Awkward: Protestors Marching Against North Carolina's Voter ID Law Required to Bring Photo ID

Riverson Wrote: Feb 09, 2014 3:07 PM
Only criminals want to hide their identity? Oh, really? So we should all submit to your notion of a biometric ID, as if criminals could not find a way around that. Beware the slippery slope--that supposed "innocent" first step that opens the door to creeping abuse, manipulation, and control. Taken to its eventual end, think 666. Coming soon...for your own good of course.
Pistol Wrote: Feb 09, 2014 9:38 PM
Be careful what you wish for, my friend. There is a definite possibility that the accelerating polarization will lead to exactly that. At some point the government can not steal enough to support the drones in the fashion to which they are accustomed. At this point, it will be the mindless LIVs who take to the streets. It won't be the veterans, NRA life members, Tea Party Conservatives, or those who put in 9 to 5 in a job. I should know, i'm in all those categories. I'm 'way too old and comfortable to start anything. But God gives even a rat the right to self defense if he can't escape, and here in Florida, one doesn't even have to try.

A lot of people are becoming aware that politeness has its virtues in an armed society, as Heinlein noted.
Pistol Wrote: Feb 09, 2014 9:38 PM
Be careful what you wish for, my friend. There is a definite possibility that the accelerating polarization will lead to exactly that. At some point the government can not steal enough to support the drones in the fashion to which they are accustomed. At this point, it will be the mindless LIVs who take to the streets. It won't be the veterans, NRA life members, Tea Party Conservatives, or those who put in 9 to 5 in a job. I should know, i'm in all those categories. I'm 'way too old and comfortable to start anything. But God gives even a rat the right to self defense if he can't escape, and here in Florida, one doesn't even have to try.

A lot of people are becoming aware that politeness has its virtues in an armed society, as Heinlein noted.
Riverson Wrote: Feb 09, 2014 5:27 PM
Pistol, I know, I know. I'm just having a hard time giving up. I wish I had an enemy that I could see and fight rather than these weasels that hide in the background..
Pistol Wrote: Feb 09, 2014 4:19 PM
I share your concern, Riverson, for abuse of selected citizens tracked by use of a biometric ID. But that horse is long gone. You are being tracked by virtually everything you do already. My 11 year old grand daughter pulled up my life history in 5 minutes on the internet. If you have a banker friend, check out how much they can find out if you ask for a loan. The only way to avoid this electronic surveillance is drop out and join the shadow economy, like the mafia and the illegals. No mortgage, no iphone, no credit cards, no active ss number. Since honest people living a normal life are under the microscope, there would be no further threat if the surveillance were extended to those who want to vote. This is the only time many surface, and only because there is no risk or record.
Riverson Wrote: Feb 09, 2014 3:38 PM
Before someone assumes that I was making the case against requiring voter ID, I was not. However, I am opposed to increasing government control and the increasing number of ways for bureaucrats to "manage" my life for me. A biometric ID concerns me.