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Are there any Fact-Checkers at the New York Times?

Rick 2811 Wrote: Oct 20, 2012 9:14 AM
It's really sad but certainly true and verifiable how so many liberals lie. They absolutely do. Even sadder is their leader lies as much as anyone. Of course Benghazi is just the latest example. He {they} get away with it because the media aids them by not reporting lies as such. And it's easy to see how they get away with it once you see the videos showing voters knowledge about what's going on...they are totally ignorant. I have breakfast once a week with two liberal/Obama supporters and each week I'm amazed of what they don't know that they should know if breathing. One explanation though, one is an avid "Jerry Springer" fan !!
Stuart95 Wrote: Oct 20, 2012 11:43 AM
They don't think they're lying. They have such an ingrained attachment to liberal ideas, like taking money from undeserving, immoral rich people and giving to school children, that contrary facts don't even register in their minds. The emotional pain of discovering that taking money from rich people hurts everyone, and that throwing money at school children doesn't make the smarter, is too much to bear. Textbook case of cognitive dissonance. Think of Nancy Peolsi - I really think she believes the nonsense that flows so freely from her mouth.

Of course, when you study liberals like Obama and Reid, you can't avoid that creeping sense of creepy cynicism.
KYoung43 Wrote: Oct 20, 2012 11:25 AM
Alinsky's Rules are a favorite for the few Progressives I know--either that or the "That's just the way it is" or "My vote will cancel your vote" argument. A friend in northern CA lives where the city fathers have outlawed burning wood in fireplaces because of the horrors of air pollution. No facts to back it up, just "hugging the tree" mentality. She complains but doesn't vote for conservatives because they are racists, sexists and homophobes and hate the poor.

On rare occasions, when I get really irked, I complain about media bias. Examples include this AP story on poverty, the Brian Ross Tea Party slur, this example of implicit bias by USA Today, and a Reuters report on job creation and so-called stimulus.

On other occasions, though, you stumble upon a news report or column that is ignorant beyond belief and you have to assume that the person has transcended ordinary bias and belongs in a special...

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