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The Libertarian Era?

Rick0418 Wrote: Nov 13, 2013 10:04 AM
I am a Conservative but lean Libertarian on domestic issues. However, I am concerned about their views on foreign policy and defense.
MatthewlovesAyn Wrote: Nov 13, 2013 2:48 PM
Rick: Do you really think we need 50,000 troops in Germany, 30,000 in Korea, 9,000 in Great Britain, 15,000 in Kuwait, 11,000 in Italy for gosh sake. Let them defend themselves. I'm sick of being the world's babysitter. I resent it and so do they.
HornIt Wrote: Nov 13, 2013 11:36 AM
I've fought through that a bit myself, but at the end of the day, big government is big government. The welfare and warfare states are just different sides of the same coin. Why do Republicans so revere big government when it comes to the DOD but not when it comes to the economy? The potential for misuse and abuse of government power is the same in both places and, if you really start researching it and how and why we get politically entangled in military establishment and action throughout the world, you'll find there is little difference in how a bloated military program gets justified and abused like a bloated food stamp program. And that's not only at home, but also in the way it creates dependencies on the US government abroad and allows the welfare states of "allies" to grow. Most Libertarians believe in the US as a sovereign entity that should be defended. They just don't believe that should include making foreign policy decisions for other sovereign states or allowing them to become fully dependent on the US for their security needs. They believe the warfare state, like the welfare state, should be as limited and lean and accountable as possible to preserve life and liberty.
Becca in TX Wrote: Nov 13, 2013 1:39 PM
The nation's defense is one of their Constitutionally authorized powers. I just want the feds to get back to those powers the Constitution grants them, and leave the rest to the states.
Kafir2 Wrote: Nov 13, 2013 10:07 AM
I am with you on that. The events of the 20th century forever changed the definition of national defense. Many libertarians see it as defending the borders but that is the 19th century view.
James____Tx Wrote: Nov 13, 2013 10:22 AM
First if you are going to have a Pre-emptive policy of defense you better be prepared for the consequences that result from preemptive strikes and long drown out wars such a policy requires. Also you need leaders with enough sense to know when such actions are required and not just use war as a political cover to make the electorit happy.
goldilocks Wrote: Nov 13, 2013 11:02 AM
Did you read my reply about the tenants of libertarianism?

Have you seen Emo and my emu around?
James____Tx Wrote: Nov 13, 2013 11:49 AM
No and no, i've been in the dentist chair.
goldilocks Wrote: Nov 13, 2013 12:17 PM
Not your old Navy dentist I hope.
James____Tx Wrote: Nov 13, 2013 12:21 PM
I was never in the Navy, Army yes.