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The Malicious Mangling of the Virgin Mary

Rich D. Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 12:08 AM
Fabius Cunctator Wrote: 32 minutes ago (11:22 PM) The Holy Spirit vs. Sola Scriptura (4/4) Just imagine what non-Christians would say about Christianity if God let his Son be born from an ordinary sinful woman. If you were God, would you want your son to be born of a prostitute? ---- Another silly "God wouldn't..."argument! Those are so lame... Phil 2.7 - "Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave (not servant as some have it) and was born as a human being." And he descended to the lowest place by his manner of death, and after death before he went to the highest. Haven't you read the OT prophecies? Look who his ancestors were - one WAS a prostitute. Who cares what non-believers would think?
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 1:38 PM


Mary is the holy mother of God. The ancestress wasn't. For that matter, Jesus has for an ancestor David the King; who couldn't keep his hands off another Israelite's wife; then murdered her husband to cover up the sin. They didn't contaminate Jesus.

But a womb that had been under Satan's power once would have been a disgrace to her Holy Son.

We can't expect Rich to see with common sense. He is wedded to the letter only, which kills.


Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 2:18 PM


Not only that;

Rich D is a servant of the devil who is in enmity forever with the Most Blessed Virgin Mary. We see this in God's prophesy, Genesis chapt 3.

"She will crush the serpent's head,"

SHE is Mary, Rich! The mother of Jesus Christ. God Himself has placed her in total enmity with the Evil One; who is YOUR master!


Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 9:34 PM


But hark, what was that? Is it Rich D?

Oh; CRICKETS . . .
Rich D. Wrote: Nov 18, 2012 11:55 PM
You wouldn't understand - that is another eisegesis by your corrupt sect.
Fabius Cunctator Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 5:52 AM
RE: Rich D. 12:08 AM 11/17/2012
RE: Sola Scriptura
My response:
You did not say where "Sola Scriptura" is in the Bible? I, and the pope, care what non-believers think.
The quoting of scripture passages is not an argument. If Mary were a sinner, how are we sure that she is in Heaven? The Bible says that sinners will not enter Heaven.
Rich D. Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 9:07 AM
(1) I repeat, you used the sola Scriptura argument as a defense for the correctness of your church's teachings and later argued that it isn't valid, trying to have it both ways when it is convenient to do so. I didn't use it for anything. The contradiction, dear friend, is your to resolve.

(2) We sin because we are sinners. Those who ask for and receive pardon are those who enter heaven. This is basic stuff - do you not understand redemption? Why would you assume that Mary was not redeemed like you and I would be? What did they teach you in Sunday School?

You are straying from the point, having stepped out of the boat into the swamp.
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 1:45 PM


My advice to Fabius Cunctator is; leave Sola Scriptura as the precise argument. I see your point. But Rich D is a servant of the devil. Rich will bait you endlessly. There's no need in the Catholic faith for Sola Scriptura; which is unbiblical anyway.

Heretics used it to dispute the authority of one Pope. To say that only the Bible has holy wisdom. It obviously didn't THEN, and not TODAY either. It's bowdlerized daily by men like Rich D and his devil.

A Christian can be crushed gazing at the picture of Mary standing at the foot of the cross, watching her beloved son suffocate and die. But in that vision, she stands there for hours, patiently enduring her suffering. For two millennia, she has been a role model for Christians, a woman who practiced obedience in the most difficult of human circumstances, with fervent hope for what this sacrifice will offer all mankind as it struggles with sin.

This is why it seems so hard to reflect that vision of patience when black-hearted "artists" practice character assassination on the Blessed Virgin...