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Liar, Liar: WaPo Gives 'Julia' Three Pinocchios for Social Security Claim

RickG_Prov_RI Wrote: May 07, 2012 11:05 PM
Independent businesspeople do not have to contribute to social security. If they elect to then they fund 100% of their social security apportionment. Employees pay half of their social security requirement. The employer pays the other half. The employee is not lawfully allowed to opt out nor is the employer lawfully allowed to refuse to pay half. Only the employer as an individual or an independent business person is allowed to opt out or in by their own choosing. That should have been addressed in any critique of the 'Julia' scenario.
algae Wrote: May 08, 2012 10:10 AM
Richard - Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong (is there a tax accountant in the house?) but it looks like you could be giving some bad tax advice there. The government calls SS a tax. If you don't "contribute" to a tax that usually means penalties and all sorts of nasty things. I would hate to see the IRS lean on someone because of this.

IRS gov on SS: Self-employment income is income that arises from the performance of personal services, but which cannot be classified as wages because an employer-employee relationship does not exist between the payer and the payee. The Internal Revenue Code imposes the self-employment tax on the self-employment income of any U.S. citizen or resident alien who has such self-employment income.
Debbie335 Wrote: Jun 18, 2012 4:42 PM
Algae - You are absolutely right. Richard 1664 - Social Security taxes are not optional for independent businesspeople. Please listen to algae. There are indeed penalties for failure to report and failure to pay.

Last week, conservatives took to the Twittersphere and the airwaves to malign "Julia," one of the most ill-advised campaign tools in recent history. Indeed, the slideshow depicting the life of an average American woman, and all the help she gets from the government, presented so many factual errors that even the Washington Post's Fact Check had to jump into the fray.

One of the most egregious claims Team Obama made about Julia's life pertained to Social Security: "Under President Obama: Julia retires. After years of contributing to Social Security, she receives monthly benefits that help her retire comfortably,...