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Surreal: Obama's Fiscal Cliff Proposal Stuns Washington

Resist, We Much!!! Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 1:23 PM
DOUBLE ALL TAX RATES and start taxing social security (regardless of additional income), medicare, medicaid, food stamps, Obamaphones, you name it. The country voted for a European-style welfare state. Fine. It’s time that it got European-style tax rates to pay for it. Eliminating the Bush tax rate cuts on the top 2% will raise about $80 billion per year. THAT’S IT. The “We can have all of this and get the ‘evil rich’ to pay for it” BS that Obama the Medicine Man sold to the country needs to be exposed for the cr@p that it is. Time to belly up to the bar and pay the tab. From now on, pay first, drink later. It’s time that EVERYONE put some skin in the game… including Peggy Joseph and the Obamaphone woman. If Americans want a big
nodeamass Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 1:25 PM
Let's do it! And, cut the military 90%. It's generally a huge boondoggle and a big wealth transfer to military CONtractors.
spartacus3344 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 1:27 PM
Where did you come up with 90%?
Resist, We Much!!! Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 1:46 PM
I'll cut military by 90% if we cut SS/Medicare/Medicaid/foodstamps,Pell Grants, etc. by 90%.
Resist, We Much!!! Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 1:24 PM
government, make them pay for it. We’ll see just how big of a government they really want. I suspect that we will find that they want a much smaller government once they are on the hook for the taxes needed to support it. Right now, they believe that they can have a free lunch and stick the “evil rich” with the tab. Unfortunately for the clueless, there aren’t enough “evil rich” people to pay for the lunch to which the moochers believe they are entitled.

For FY2012, the government spent $3,795.6 trillion. Eliminating the Bush tax rates on the top 2% is estimated to bring in $80 billion, ceterus paribus.

$3,795.6 / 365 = $10.4 billion

80 / 10.4 = 7.69 days

Your end of the Bush tax rates on the top 2% will pay for 7.69 days of Federal
Resist, We Much!!! Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 1:24 PM
government spending.

And, you can do your own math here:

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2012USbf_13bs1n#usgs302


Like I said, let's fly this fiscal cliff. It ain't nothing compared to the debt cliff on the horizon.
nodeamass Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 1:27 PM
Military, homeland security and drug war could shave another $00 to $600B/yr if 90% of these worthless programs were cut. It's funny how all you bobblies are so silent on this. why is that?
spartacus3344 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 1:33 PM
You keep spewing this 90%, I want to know how you arrived at that figure.

Republicans have been asking for the White House's plan for some time now -- well, they finally got one.  Oh my:
 

House Republicans said on Thursday that Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner presented the House speaker, John A. Boehner, a detailed proposal to avert the year-end fiscal crisis with $1.6 trillion in tax increases over 10 years, an immediate new round of stimulus spending, home mortgage refinancing and a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits. The proposal, loaded with Democratic priorities and short on detailed spending cuts, was likely to meet strong...