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The FRC Shooting and Inflammatory Gay Rhetoric

Reed - the fReedomist Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 12:39 PM
This article and most of the responses to it are exactly the kind of thing that ramps the rhetoric ON BOTH SIDES right up into a fever pitch. everyone is in need of some self-reflection. To argue the merits or the follies of homosexuality on the internet is simply dumb. Neither side will agree with the other. Hateful or not. So it's a giant waste of time - and to write articles about it being one-sided is as disingenuous as it gets. Might as well be the fire attendant throwing another log on the fire. PFFT. Dumb. All of you bigots are dumb. That's not gonna change - especially since this place is essentially an echo chamber for your misguided religious aspirations. JUDGE NOT LEST THEE BE JUDGED YOURSELVES has escaped most of you.
Jay Wye Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 5:02 PM
one "judges" every time they choose to not associate with a bad person,such as a thief or other criminal. One "judges" when they select their friends. didn't your momma or daddy tell you to not hang around with the wrong crowd,that it would get you into trouble?

that's "discrimination",and smart.
Anominus Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 12:59 PM
So you whine about how this is "inflammatory" and a "giant waste of time," then you say "All of you bigots are dumb."? Best of all, you follow it up with the cliche "judge not lest ye be judged" line?

You waste your time typing out this drivel, and our time by actually posting it here. "Judge not, lest ye be judged" is a proscription against hypocrisy which becomes obvious when you read the second part, something you folks conveniently abandon: "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."

Run along, reject.
Reed - the fReedomist Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 1:35 PM
Can't refute the merits of my argument so you bash what i wrote as cliche whining and make my argument for me... I was referring to the hypocritical nature of this argument against gays and their behaviors and their desire to have equal rights as far as the law goes... I came onto this article to see what was being said and confirm exactly what i set out to and I did. That most people commenting here ARE hypocrites and wave around the banner of freedom when it suits them and pick up the mantle of tyranny when it does not. The fact of the matter is - nobody is shooting this issue through the very prisms they claim to strictly adhere to otherwise. It's lame and intellectually stunted.
Reed - the fReedomist Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 1:36 PM
Now I will run along, reject.
Becca in TX Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 1:53 PM
Your argument had no merits.
Anominus Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 3:13 PM
There were no "merits" in your bilious screed to refute - it was just a pile of insults and accusations against people who post here and religion in general. You quoted a religious phrase you know nothing about which actually condemns your own statements! You are one of those hypocrites you ranted about!
Jay Wye Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 5:04 PM
Homos already HAVE -equal- right to marriage;
they can marry another person of the opposite sex the same as any other person.
That IS the definition of "marriage";man-woman,it's been that way for several thousand years.

This is all about the REDEFINITION of "marriage" to be something it's never been,and thus FORCING other states to recognize the abomination via Article IV,sec 1.
Homos are seeking SPECIAL rights and the reordering of US society to suit their agenda and mental illness.
Reed - the fReedomist Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 12:56 PM
blah blah blah. We will never agree - so fighting with you crusaders is a waste of time and frankly, very boring. You all are free to worship whatever/whomever you see fit to do so. But the idea that you're at all objective about pursuing your religion is a colossal joke. It must be too complicated to understand the difference between religious freedom and religious activism.
DCM in FL Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 1:00 PM
Blah blah blah yourself. I understand the difference between what we're supposed to believe about homosexuality and what's actually true about it. The latter I learned almost entirely (directly or indirectly) from homosexuals themselves, and yet homosexuals keep denying it. It's not just a matter of "religion." It's that people are made to work sexually a certain way, and it causes damage when they work another way.
Reed - the fReedomist Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 1:41 PM
It's their right to make that choice for themselves despite the consequences. The USA is not supposed to be a nanny state and that INCLUDES barring homosexuals from being gay and doing homosexual things with each other. It is in spite of the risk of life that some people make the choices they make and it is NOT your right to decide what is best for them. And that's just all there is to it. Good day.
Kevlar Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 1:54 PM
Woe Reed...I guess we touched a nerve. Who said they wanted to outlaw homosexuality? Every try decaf?
John5840 Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 2:15 PM
Well actually, we did mention the Christian pastor Scott Lively who is working with the Ugandan government to make homosexuality illegal.
Jay Wye Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 5:03 PM
homosexuality is an unhealthy,destructive behavior(medically PROVEN),a mental illness(readily apparent),and NOT good for society,any society(recognized over millennia).
it is not to be accommodated,enabled,or encouraged.

but that does NOT say "outlaw" it.
that is just how the mentally ill homos and their enablers read it.
DCM in FL Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 12:51 PM
The actions of a highly typical homosexual lifestyle killed one of my best friends physically. The existence of the issue inside him killed him the rest of the way.

Whether anyone listens or not, I WILL NOT BE SILENT about the issue. There is too much harmful misinformation about it for me to be quiet in any kind of good conscience.
John5840 Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 1:09 PM
MAybe the attitude of people around him, like you, had somethgin to do with it.
DCM in FL Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 1:13 PM
Wow, you're *really* reaching now. As a matter of fact, he commended me as being the one person who disagreed with him while still clearly loving him.
Kevlar Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 12:49 PM
Reed, why are you quoting the Bible. Are you a Christian?
John5840 Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 12:51 PM
I didn't know there was a copyright.
DCM in FL Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 12:53 PM
There doesn't have to be a copyright. There is probably no more heavily misused scripture verse than "Judge not lest you be judged." Usually it just means "overlook my real sins while I judge you for your imagined ones."
John5840 Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 1:02 PM
Usually, as with most biblical references, it means whatever teh person quoting it wants it to mean.
DCM in FL Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 1:12 PM
Except when it means what it was originally written to mean. And that's the meaning you seem to have trouble with.
Kevlar Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 12:48 PM
So, those unwilling to praise violation of the defecation location are 'bigots'?
Becca in TX Wrote: Aug 20, 2012 12:48 PM
You refer to other people's "misguided religious aspirations" and then totally misrepresent the meaning of "judge not".

Within hours of the shooting of the security guard at the Family Research Council last Wednesday, more than 20 gay organizations issued a joint statement that they “utterly reject and condemn such violence.” This is highly commendable. Unfortunately, they did not utterly reject, condemn, or even acknowledge their potential role in helping to create the toxic environment that may have contributed to the shooting. Consider how shrill gay activist rhetoric has become.

In June, after Southern Baptists reaffirmed marriage as the union of one man and one woman (for conservative Christians who base their faith on the Bible, a no brainer),...