if he has, at least it was one heard outside of the po-dunk, dixie flag waving bar you crawled out of to find a computer to spew bile. good day - as i originally told another poster - one shouldn't waste his time arguing with a fool lest he turn out looking like one himself. I could waste all day here with you and not make one ounce of progress on the unhinged and crazed _thing_ that is you.

that or you couldn't care less about freedom. it's one or the other usmc - with all due respect.

of that is tacit approval of legislating bigotry.

class citizens and not afforded the same protections as white people under the constitution. We cannot preach equality and not give it to ALL of our citizens. It's hypocrisy. To let religious people legislate in ways that discriminate against other people's sexual preferences (AND WE'RE NOT TALKING BESTIALITY HERE SO DON'T EVEN GO THERE) is a breach of the American ethos. People can disapprove of it all they wan,t but the bottom line is - that disapproval based on religious grounds isn't enough to deny people, of different tastes, the freedom and the legal benefits of being American and living in a FREE society. IE gays should be allowed to join together in a legal institution between themselves. It's nobody else's business and denial

Gay people should have the same legal rights as straight people. If Christians want the word "marriage" to be mutually exclusive to religious ceremony than i am fine with that much. But, to deny gay people the same umbrella of protection in a legal sense by not allowing them to have civil unions or some other descriptive legal term that affords them all the same legal rights as the institution of marriage is bigotry plain and simple. Christians don't want them to use the word marriage? Fine. The only solution after that is to allow them to be treated equally in the eyes of the law - NOT LEGISLATE CHRISTIAN DOGMA. To do anything less is tantamount to the way blacks were treated in this country when they were treated (post slavery) as second-

Ya I'm picking up on that.

thanks for illustrating my point... Brilliant. LoL.

you can veil your obvious repulsion to gays in religion or stats or whatever you can manage to scrape up in your defense but at the end of the day - not one person doesn't see your personal crusade is obviously deep-seated and is spurned by irrational emotions. You're not thinking - you're feeling... And you feel something akin to fear from the bottom of your heart for anything you aren't comfortable with. Think what you want of me... But I pity you. You've reached the heights you're capable of and will forever be stymied by your emotions in regards to any intellectually honest thought.

You know what i find the most shocking about townhall? It's all of the so-called conservatives acting like a bunch of punk high school bullies whenever the subject of gay marriage comes up. The gay hate here is as sickening as it gets on the web and you'd think conservatives would be more dignified than this. You wanna make your case against gays using the word marriage - go right ahead... but the conversations that take place on this site in regards to the subject are as ignorant, vile, and hateful as they can be. There's nothing Christian about it... It's just Christians being vain in their thinking. What were the seven deadly sins? I think Vanity was one of them. And no vanity is more ironic than your screen name AliveInHim

Mr. Conservatarian - i think your fight here is noble in nature. But i also know what a waste of time it will be for you to try and convince this guy and many others on this site to move to your way of thinking. Unfortunately not everyone can be as objective and rational and fair as others. That's just a sad fact about Townhall.com... Most aren't here for a real discussion or debate. Just preaching their views - whether they are right or wrong doesn't really matter... They've been told some things that only solidify their own bigoted positions by their church leaders and texts and nothing will convince them they are wrong in any way.

That said - the irony about this video - is that both the protester and the cop who got hit are present there at those protests through proxies of Obama and his administration (Van Jones/Stephan Learner/Francis Piven/Cass Sunstein/Mark Lloyd and the list goes on and on in terms of people involved with this "grassroots" (PFT!) movement OWS). Here's the even more ironic part about it. She - belonging to a new york city cop union, will likely vote for Obama. This kid protesting will buy the bs from the Obama campaign as long as this hunt for wall streeter's and corporatists continues and likely vote for Obama as well. Both will have served a purpose for Obama and both will dance on the strings for the puppet master in the end.