I hope, for the sake of Pat Smith and the other family members, the whole truth comes out and those who perpetrated this, and covered it up, are punished to the full extent of the law. Actually, I hope that happens for the sake of the American people.

Great soundbite for an opponent in 2016. The RNC types would probably consider it unsporting and refrain from using it, though.

Since this didn't nest as it should, my post was directed at Dreadnaught.

Your posts might have a little more credibility if you would learn spelling, grammar and basic sentence structure. Let me guess: you're one of the illegals to whom Mario and Larry want to give amnesty. If you don't have a good argument, play the "that's racist" card. So predictable!

Anyone who believes the weak, loophole-filled provisions in that bill for border security are going to be enforced either is ignorant or mentally challenged. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." We're not being fooled anymore. There are laws currently to address those issues and they're not being followed. We don't need new laws, just the enforcement of current ones. Giving a path to legalization is de facto amnesty. They came here illegally, ahead of those who followed the rules. This shouldn't be rewarded. I'd rather "do nothing" about it than endorse illegal immigration. And this policy was also that of George W. Bush, another pro-illegal amnesty president.

If we were given the chance, I'd click on the Ridiculous category for this article. Not all the people coming over our borders are hard-working individuals who share our values. Many of them are coming here to suck on the public teat. Quite a few are criminals. Do you honestly think we need a larger labor force when we have such high (real, not government stats) rates of unemployment? Would you feel the same way if those coming here were capable of doing your job and for less pay? What if your child had gone to college, maintained good grades in a STEM major but was unable to get a job because of the competition from foreigners brought in on H-1b visas at lower pay? Reagan admitted he was wrong, BTW.

I'm not sure conservative principles really do transcend ethnicity. Blacks, Asians, Mexicans....one thing they have in common is they vote in large majorities for Democrats. There are obvious exceptions, but not enough. The data does indicate that, largely, it is "white" vs "nonwhite." Conservatives really have no place to go anymore. The Republican Party isn't conservative, by and large. Suicidal, but not conservative.

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth: you say the debt has to be dealt with, yet you're spending your time trying to give amnesty to probably 25-30 million illegal aliens. Part of the debt problem is caused by spending on freebies for illegals, as well as the huge levels of unemployment and underemployment among Americans. Again, this unemployment is partially caused by being undercut by illegals. Sorry, but we're no longer buying what you're selling. You've revealed yourself very clearly. No matter what you people in Washington believe, we're not stupid. We can remember what you've said and done back before your last sound bite.

Good post. I would add: 9) Surveillance society starting post-9/11

"No, they demand that we transform our country into a bankrupt, Third World hellhole so that they can feel good about themselves." This. This to the 1000th power.

Sorry, but desiring to "be here and have a desire to work" doesn't cut it. If we went by this criteria, we'd have to let in a large portion of the world's population. I realize these people are more attractive than your typical illegal immigrant, but we have real un/underemployment of close to 20%. We need to get back to normal employment levels; then we can have the debate over who to let in. Americans should come first.