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Gay Marriage and the Definition of Words

RayTheAnarchoCapitalist Wrote: May 13, 2012 3:10 PM
Hunter complains about changing the meaning of words yet frequently uses the word "gay" to mean "homosexual". The word "gay" just means happy. I see he also uses words like "must" and "want" without their original meanings. Hunter is a hypocrite and will remain one until he starts speaking and writing Old English.
Original Saepe__Expertus Wrote: May 13, 2012 4:14 PM
TYPICAL RAY COMMENT. When you have nothing germane or cogent to insert...just criticize the style and indulge in ad hominen attacks.....and name calling.

How Socratic!
inkling_revival Wrote: May 13, 2012 3:18 PM
"Gay" did not get changed because of an effort to alter the law by altering the meaning of a word. Meanings do change over time by natural drift; that's a very, very different thing from altering the meaning of a word by advocacy, for the purpose of changing the meaning of a law.

Moreover, when the meaning of a word in a law changes by the natural drift you're talking about, it is both legally and morally wrong to attempt to interpret the law by the current meaning of the words, especially when you know perfectly well what the word used to mean.

So quit playing dishonest word games.
David3036 Wrote: May 13, 2012 3:33 PM
And just how does allowing gays to marry change the meaning of the word? It does not require you or your church to change what it means to you. All it does is recognize gays for inclusion in the thousands of laws that grant rights, privileges and benefits to married couples.
Joseph64 Wrote: May 13, 2012 3:38 PM
Because from the beginning of human civilization marriages were performed between men and women, not men and men or women and women, and it has been accepted during those thousands of years that that is what marriage means.
inkling_revival Wrote: May 13, 2012 3:41 PM
That's pretty obvious, David. Gays ARE allowed to marry. A gay man can marry any woman he chooses, who is legally available, of age, and consents. A gay woman can marry ay man she chooses, who is legally available, of age, and consents.

A gay man cannot marry any man -- gay or straight -- because what men do with men is not "marriage."

You want to change the meaning of the word "marriage" so that what a man does with a man is now called "marriage." It does not mean that now.

How difficult is that for you to understand?
Frank391 Wrote: May 13, 2012 4:14 PM
Laws grant no rights, only privileges subject to the whim of the government,

Gay marriage is an issue most Americans simply don’t care about. We have opinions on it, but it simply doesn’t register, especially at a time of high unemployment. But President Obama shoehorned it into the forefront this week because he can’t talk about the economy, jobs, his record, the massive debt he racked up or anything he’s done since assuming office except ordering the raid against bin Laden. And that party was last week, so a new distraction from reality was needed.

To be clear, what the president said means nothing. It won’t change any law anywhere. And the...