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From Greatness to Whiteness

ranma2 Wrote: Apr 22, 2014 6:19 AM
Black people pulling the race card when in a debate? GASP!!! No way! Impossible! GASP!!!
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From Greatness to Whiteness

ranma2 Wrote: Apr 22, 2014 5:33 AM
If it were ended sooner... like with magic perhaps? As if just by saying it, somehow all reality is warped to follow your saying. Reality is not as simple as saying "if slavery were ended sooner..". Would it make sense that there needs to be a different economic system that does not require slaves before you can start abolishing slavery? Can we make economic systems with magic? That change needs time and effort. The economy did not collapse for the North. (like I previously said) If you read carefully, I said that the founders and their successors managed to change the way the economy works on the North. Such that when Lincoln waged the war, Northern economy no longer needed slaves. The Economy collapsed plenty for the South. Slaves ran away, when Lincoln declared them free. Plantations were unmanned. The southern war supply-chain were hampered. It is one of the factors that made the South lost. It is a contradiction only if the founders did not work at ending slavery. And They DID work to end it. As proof, The north did not use slaves by the time of Lincoln. Did the north "not needing slaves" came about by magic? by mere coincidence? Here's an example: A smoker/drug user can call on others to stop smoking or using drugs as long as that person is fighting to stop the habit/addiction. It is not contradictory. Because the reality is stopping an addiction takes time and at that time he is still fighting it. Exclaiming that drugs is bad while still addicted to it but working to kick the habit is NOT contradictory. In the end the person will rid himself of drugs, and he will be an example for others. His declaration of "drugs are bad" was not contradictory nor is it hypocritical. Unlike Obama who keeps on talking about "War on Women" but on his administration he pays women only 77% of men. He is not doing anything about that. Not like he will go bankrupt by paying women the same as men. (Heck! It is not even his money. It is tax payer money!) In fact all he did was throw a woman called Sebellius under the bus for his Obamacare. Now, that's contradictory!!
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From Greatness to Whiteness

ranma2 Wrote: Apr 22, 2014 4:07 AM
Another dose of reality, The founders were not child prodigies who all had revelations when they were boys. No.... they probably learned that slavery is wrong as the lived their lives and grew wiser. They probably realized all this when they were already OLD WHITE MEN. Those Old white men, who already had many responsibilities, who cannot afford to go bankrupt for the sake of their families. Another reality check: "BANKRUPT MEN CANNOT MAKE ANY CHANGES IN ANYTHING LET ALONE THE ECONOMY". I guess the founders were smart enough to realize that they cannot go all "French Revolution", release all their slaves, bankrupt their businesses and become beggars and expect to make a real impact.
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From Greatness to Whiteness

ranma2 Wrote: Apr 22, 2014 3:42 AM
A contradiction? Not really. It is simply a situation of "Ideal vs Reality". They realized that there is something wrong with the idea of slavery. However, that does not mean that they can change the VERY BASIS OF ALL ECONOMY/BUSINESS BACK THEN like snapping their fingers. I guess you expect the founders to become beggars or something. Changing the the way economy works takes time and careful planning. The founders were not like Obama who thinks that they can change the entire economy like "lolsoeasy" and not have dire consequences for everyone. So yes, they still had slaves when they voiced "all men are created equal". And no, it is not a contradiction. It is merely a reflection of the reality of that time. Then the founders worked to CHANGE THAT REALITY. And they did. By the time of Lincoln, Northern American economy no longer depended on slaves. They founders first VOICED the change and then they MADE the change. That.. is... greatness. Greatness in changing how the world works in reality. Not just in some utopian dreams (like libs nowadays). You seem to forget the part where "WORK and TIME" is required to turn an ideal into reality.
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From Greatness to Whiteness

ranma2 Wrote: Apr 22, 2014 2:56 AM
Slavery has always been wrong. Too bad that.... EVERYBODY back then did not realize that it is wrong. Everybody except those founders that you call bigots. Which is why they wrote what they wrote. The same writing that is the basis of your current conviction that "Slavery is wrong"
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From Greatness to Whiteness

ranma2 Wrote: Apr 22, 2014 2:46 AM
Steve of CA, Those bigots lived in a reality and time where slave ownership was considered NORMAL pretty much in all the known world. Those bigots then wrote that "All men are created Equal." Those bigots were way ahead of their time and supremely enlightened. Yes, those founders that you think as bigots were actually the least bigoted people in the world back then and they wrote down the basis for ending slavery in the future at the hands of that Republican called Abraham Lincoln. Too bad that you think that you are better the founders due to your current enlightened sentiments Also too bad that you do not realize that your current "enlightened sentiments" is NOTHING but a by-product of what those founders laid in stone with this country's independence. It is too bad that liberals are ingrates who cannot appreciate what others has done for them... including the freedom of being stinking ingrates in the first place.
As bad as Michele Obama is.. I hate PETA more. I believe Michele to be a misguided individual. I believe PETA to be EVIL. Those PETA bastids kills puppies for fun.
"I vote Present. Because i thought it was Christmas already" -- Berack Ombama
At minimum, the people who paid for it. At minimum 11.000 people.. and their friends. So maybe what? multiply that by 3? About 33.000 people at minimum. And this is only halfway at 1 million out of 2.1 million. So most probably there will be 22.000 people who contributes when the goal is reached. So at minimum there will be 66.000 people who will be watching. There you have it an easy guesstimate of the minimum number of people who will watch it. Honestly, I think there will be millions of people who watch this movie.
The party will be called "WBGFA" for "We Behead Gays For Allah". And the DNC will support it.
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Do Something

ranma2 Wrote: Apr 21, 2014 1:47 AM
If you church refuses to declare abortion as "bad", Leave your church and find one more faithful to the Lord. When they see their numbers go down, Those earthly pastors will be forced to think.
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