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A Basket of Snakes

rama Wrote: Sep 26, 2014 9:23 AM
Even if, by some miracle this strategy of us bombing and relying on ME soldiers to do the ground fighting is successful, does anyone here think that this will somehow bring peace to the ME? There is a huge war being fought between the Sunnis and the Shias and the battleground of the day is in Syria. if we wipe out ISIL in Syria the battleground will just shift to a different area. I think the beheadings have led to a drive to war there but I think part of the gung-ho for war spirit comes from the fact that Americans are frustrated with the lack of results from all our sacrifice there and ISIS at least has given us a target to shoot at. I know it sounds insensitive because there were real American casualties and wrecked families from our wars there but any good investor will tell you that sometimes you have to realize when you have made a bad investment and cut your losses. We don't need to double down on our losses and get into another long bloody and costly war.
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A Basket of Snakes

rama Wrote: Sep 26, 2014 9:09 AM
I haven't seen any beheadings of people that were kidnapped and taken to Syria. They were already in Syria where the nature of a lot of the militias there was well known. Get out of there! We have no business there and are not willing to commit to the overwhelming force and tactics that would be successful in achieving our goals(which are?). As Pat points out, finding trustworthy allies among these different factions is a fools errand.
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What Will Victory Look Like?

rama Wrote: Sep 19, 2014 12:07 PM
We really need to just get out of the middle east and stop accepting immigrants from there. Does a region with more and more factions popping up every year need a fresh infusion of weapons like we are about provide? Trying to find trustworthy long term allies in this area is a fools errand. Get out and if they want long term peace they will figure it out. If they want democracy they will have it. People generally get the government they tolerate. Let's stop trying to shove freedom down their throats and just continue to trade and try being an example for others to aspire to.
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On Domestic Violence, NFL Uses NOW's Playbook

rama Wrote: Sep 18, 2014 10:13 AM
What the NFL needs is the right reaction. Not an over or under-reaction. They should establish at what level things are going to be handled- the team level or league level and then take a decisive action that addresses that particular situation. Unfortunately that seems to be the opposite of the advice that Goodell is receiving.
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On Domestic Violence, NFL Uses NOW's Playbook

rama Wrote: Sep 18, 2014 10:00 AM
Wow thismustend. At what point did anyone say that he shouldn't be punished for criminal actions? Calling names and insulting people is a sign of weakness in the adult world. It seems like people are wondering whether an employer has an obligation to punish employees who break the law and the answer is ususally no. That is what the legal system is for. In places like the NFL however, where the players are public figures and revenue is driven by sponsors as well as public consumption, one can see where they may not want to wife-beaters and child abusers representing their brand.
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Obama Has No Middle East Strategy? Good!

rama Wrote: Sep 03, 2014 4:24 PM
His point may be that since we don't have an alternative to Obama and he is completely inept at foreign affairs maybe we shouldn't be banging the war drums so loud while he is in office. Probably won't end well for anyone, especially the poor soldiers who have to carry out his orders.
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Obama Has No Middle East Strategy? Good!

rama Wrote: Sep 03, 2014 4:21 PM
I agree with that. Between Hillary and any Republican hopeful I would say that Hillary has the most potential for getting us into another long war. Her need to prove she's tough enough and need to control outcomes makes it almost inevitable to me.
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Obama Has No Middle East Strategy? Good!

rama Wrote: Sep 03, 2014 3:22 PM
This fight isn't designed to be done quickly. it will take a lot of blood and sacrifice. I just don't trust this president to make it worth it. How do think the Iraq vets feel about what Iraq has turned into. You can hope and wish but if we are dealing with reality we have to deal with the fact that Obama is president and no war he gets us into is probably going to lead to a better state of affairs than if we had stayed home.
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Obama Has No Middle East Strategy? Good!

rama Wrote: Sep 03, 2014 3:19 PM
maybe Ron Paul recognizes that nothing done by this president is probably preferable to whatever this president would do. Is Obama going to have the fortitude to stick things out when the body bags start coming home? Is he going to be able to get Russia and China to agree to UN resolutions authorizing force. Will he even get NATO to go along. Keep in mind Europe is quaking in it's boots because of all the terrorists that have European passports there. They may decide not to poke the ISIS bear. I'm afraid that what we will have is a weak coalition made up of us and Britain and maybe a few smaller countries providing token logistical support. With this in place it will be up to Obama(shudder) to prosecute a war in two countries and probably more when it spills across other borders. I know this interrupts the chest thumping go-kill-em stuff on this site. If we learned nothing else from Iraq and Afghanistan shouldn't it be tactical consideration of the consequences of our actions? Barring a 9/11 level attack on our soil again, this country is not going to support all-out genocide that bombing Syrian cities would produce.
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Obama Has No Middle East Strategy? Good!

rama Wrote: Sep 03, 2014 11:44 AM
Another reason I think that Paul is correct is that this president is incapable of executing a strategy if he had one. I can just imagine him putting boots on the ground and then pulling them out at the first sign of trouble. The only competent thing he did in foreign policy is green lighting a raid on OBL's compound and watching competent seals carry it out. In an all out war where the president has to be involved and make a lot of hard choices. I would like to see a show of hands from the war drummers here that think he will make the right choices and gain a victory without worsening this situation. if your only choice is bad action, inaction is not such a bad alternative.
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Obama Has No Middle East Strategy? Good!

rama Wrote: Sep 03, 2014 11:05 AM
And by the way, your solution seems to be the genocide of a billion people. Don't think that's going to fly anytime soon.
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