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Anarchist Protest Trainer Preps Michigan Unions for Right to Work Showdown

R.3 Wrote: Dec 11, 2012 8:39 AM
Most of the public never hear about the unholy alliance between anarchists, communists, and unions. They get the condensed, whitewashed version about the "struggle" of the "worker". Then, they blame everything on those pesky rich people. They might do well to compare their current salary and benefits to a 50 year old union worker's retirement package if they really want to know where the money goes.
everyonesfacts4usall Wrote: Dec 11, 2012 9:48 AM
So, R.3. you think that money will go the "public"?
Or will it go to management even more than it does now?
FWIW, a record year for private profits this year.
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 11, 2012 5:15 PM
Had you even the most tenuous grasp of economics or reality, you would know that profits are THE source of both job creation AND higher compensation. It is the market that has rewarded workers with ever improving working conditions and compensation, not unions or regulations, so it is an indisputable FACT that the money goes to the "public". Unions undermine this process costing the economy and American workers more than $50 trillion to date.
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 11, 2012 5:15 PM
Had you even the most tenuous grasp of economics or reality, you would know that profits are THE source of both job creation AND higher compensation. It is the market that has rewarded workers with ever improving working conditions and compensation, not unions or regulations, so it is an indisputable FACT that the money goes to the "public". Unions undermine this process costing the economy and American workers more than $50 trillion to date.
everyonesfacts4usall Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 6:06 AM
Fletch, you are making up things.
I never wrote anything about profits.
It is not only the market that improves working conditions or compensation, though. At least that is what they taught my brother in business school at that liberal bastion the U. of Chicago. Unions and public interest groups play a part as does the government. I would actually say the government or the state has more to do with work conditions, at least setting the low bar in both work conditions and compensation.
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 12:03 PM
Feel free to try and reconcile these two statements by you:

"I never wrote anything about profits."

...and...

"FWIW, a record year for private profits this year."

That it is the market and ONLY the market that improves working conditions and compensations is not opinion but inescapable FACT. And NO ONE was taught any such thing by anyone with a grasp of history, economics, business or reality. In fact, the improvement in working conditions and compensation is FAR less where unions and government intervention have been greatest. Your entire stance is completely contrary to actual fact.
everyonesfacts4usall Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 3:23 PM
Good catch on profits.

The rest is something you made up in your head and then wrote down.

Every single improvement to working conditions and compensations was done by the market? The market is not a person. Or even a group of people.

My assertion above is correct. Corporations often push for regulations it is true to keep people out of the market, but to give them credit for improved working conditions is silly. Unless you are saying law suits and law making is also part of the market as are unions and every individual. So yes, if everything can be defined as the market you are finally right. Congrats!

FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 9:53 AM
The market is a PROCESS. And that process is what results directly in employers, who must compete for labor, bidding for the means to improve their own condition. This is the SOLE source of improved compenstaion and working conditions (so, again, your assertion is pure economic and historical ignorance with no truth in it whatsoever). Lawsuits are certainly part of the market; law making is not. Unions and law making are bothe EXTRA-market activities and both have UNDERMINED improvements in both compensation and working conditions.

Your ignorance is astounding.

Mother Jones calls her “Professor Occupy.” She was the brains behind the violent 1999 World Trade Organization protests in Seattle.

Now, Lisa Fithian – a self-described anarchist – has brought her tactics to Michigan, where the unions are prepping for a massive demonstration Tuesday as the legislature gives final passage to Right to Work legislation.

EAGnews exposed Fithian when she popped up in Chicago last year to organize the Chicago Teachers Union during the height of the silly but dangerous Occupy protests.

SEE THE VIDEO HERE.

But strangely, the Associated Press didn’t mention Fithian’s track record in...