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Family’s Home Raided over Facebook Photo of Child’s Rifle

Quintus_T_Cicero Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 12:57 PM
I had a Texas child protective Services agent her in Texas tell me that if they believe a chold is being abused they don't need probable cause, a search warrant or court orders to go into a house and search. I asked her about the 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, and 14th Amendments and was told they didn't matter when CPS was doing an "investigation, and that parents had to prove they were not abusing the child rather than CPS proving that they were.
Ms Kelly Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 4:58 PM
I'm sure it's just because they have not been challenged in court yet. Let's hope this most recent victim takes this all the way to the top!
ReddestNeck Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 8:51 PM
If the kopz can get a liberal community's support then this is howling at the moon, it would be so so so pyrrhic with the kids being taken away until the standoff wends its way to Washington which could be decades, and a money mill would be needed. If the community is conservative then hush money will likely be forthcoming before it could get any political grip, let alone court.
Becca in TX Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 2:33 PM
Quint-The power that CPS has is outrageous. And people can make an anonymous report and they'll investigate. Someone can make a report and even when it's learned that the report was made by someone with an axe to grind, they won't do anything to them. The harass people over nothing, but then you'll hear about some kid who's parents have been reported over and over and CPS didn't do anything and then the child is dead. They make no sense.
Becca in TX Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 2:37 PM
I had a friend who refused to give his drug-addicted, stripper sister any more money so she called CPS and claimed that he was sexually abusing his 4 year old daughter. They made him leave his house IMMEDIATELY pending investigation, he wasn't even able to visit his own home. They took the child to a doctor who said there was no evidence of any abuse, but it was still another 6 months later after they made him see a counselor weekly for 6 months that they cleared them and let him go home. But even though they determined that there was no abuse and the person reporting did it because she was mad at her brother, they still wouldn't do anything to her for making a false report, and they said if she made another report they'd have to investigat
Becca in TX Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 2:37 PM
He talked to a lawyer and was told that there was nothing he could do. CPS has way too much power.
Becca in TX Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 2:38 PM
He talked to a lawyer and was told that there was nothing he could do. CPS has way too much power.
Richard31 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 11:09 PM
It is fortunate (for them) that they never had a run-in with me. I decided a long time ago that if and when any government agent went extra-legal with me or mine, they would forfeit any right to the protection of the law.
psydoc Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 1:04 PM
When I lived in FL, DCFS acted exactly the same way, Quintus.
gary395 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 1:32 PM
i would still take them to court, being the U.S. Constitution, is the Supreme Law of the Land.
psydoc Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 1:43 PM
I never had a run-in with them, gary. Good friends of ours did, though.
Quintus_T_Cicero Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 1:45 PM
People have tried, and lost
psydoc Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 2:03 PM
Ms Kelly Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 4:59 PM
I am sure this has not been challenged all the way to the SC. If you think it has been, I won't buy it unless you can cite the court case.

New Jersey police and Dept. of Children and Families officials raided the home of a firearms instructor and demanded to see his guns after he posted a Facebook photo of his 11-year-old son holding a rifle.

“Someone called family services about the photo,” said Evan Nappen, an attorney representing Shawn Moore. “It led to an incredible, heavy-handed raid on his house. They wanted to see his gun safe, his guns and search his house. They even threatened to take his kids.”

Moore was not arrested or charged.

A Dept. of Children and Families spokesperson told me they could not confirm or...