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BREAKING: Obamacare Upheld, 5-4 Decision as Roberts Sides with Liberals

purple_persuader Wrote: Jun 28, 2012 12:27 PM
So this is a surprise? Listen, first of all the US constitution has been dead since the days of Lincoln. Secondly, let's say the USC was still in effect ; if anyone who studied the USC had read Roberts previous opinions, that someone would have known Roberts was not someone to trust in upholding the USC. People, the justices are POLITICAL appointees, not enlightened beings who have through some mystical process to purify their souls. Thirdly, until (not that I believe it'll happen), until so-called conservatives actually bother to be concerned with liberty, and also actually bother to study the USC, then they will continue to support .
rick1907 Wrote: Jun 28, 2012 12:33 PM
You listen. the constitution has NOT been dead since the "days of Lincoln." That is plain silly when viewed with all the amendments passed since his death. C'mon man, be at least a little close to actual facts.
purple_persuader Wrote: Jun 28, 2012 12:39 PM
Your logic fails. If I say basketball is still around, even though fundamentally it differs in so many ways from what Naismith invented, is it still what HE created? No.

The USC was an agreement between certain parties, none of which could force another to remain in the agreement while violating it. Lincoln refused to acknowledge this, and since then the USC has been dead. Yes, it's that simple.
IAdmitIAmCrazy Wrote: Jun 28, 2012 12:31 PM
Have you read one single sentence of Roberts' opinion today? Why don't you pick one of his arguments and show here in what way it violates the constitution?
Buck O Wrote: Jun 28, 2012 12:34 PM
Why don't you f-off, eurotrash?
Roberty Wrote: Jun 28, 2012 12:34 PM
purple_persuader Wrote: Jun 28, 2012 12:42 PM
IAdmit, I don't need to, I know what the powers granted under the USC were, this act contains none of them. Further, the taxing power was limited to the enumerated, which this act falls outside of.
purple_persuader Wrote: Jun 28, 2012 12:29 PM
...statist, power loving tyrants. As long conservatives are more concerned with patriotism over justice and liberty, then oppression will be the order of the day. Myself, I'm just stockpiling and waiting for the SHTF, because things will be getting worse, and the economy will go down badly, and there will be rioting, and then martial law. After that???

The verdict is in, and it's a major disappointment to Obamacare opponents.  CNN initially reported that the individual mandate had been struck down under the Commerce Clause, then corrected its reporting: Obamacare has been upheld as a tax.  It looks like Obamacare's Medicaid expansion has been limited, but not struck down.  Chief Justice Roberts has reportedly joined the Left flank of the Court, authoring the decision (the key bits are on pages 31, 32). 

Confirmed:  The decision was 5-4, with Justices Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas and Alito dissenting. According to SCOTUS blog, the four dissenters were prepared to strike...

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