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Christianity is Compatible with Ayn Rand

publiusAH Wrote: Sep 11, 2012 12:36 AM
One doesn't even have to go to Aquinas or Aristotle to discern if Jesus favors socialism or capitalism. Go to the source in the Gospel parable about the owner of the vineyard and the workers he hires at different times of the day to work the vineyard. When those who started early in the morning got paid the same amount as those who only started working late in the afternoon, some of the workers started to grumble about fairness. The owner simply says didn't you agree to the wage we discussed? And by the way who are you to tell me I can 't be generous with my own money? Sounds like capitalism to me!
marmiedearest Wrote: Dec 08, 2012 6:29 AM
Everyone got paid the same amount sounds like socialism to me.

Are you people drunk?
Mattieohmalley Wrote: Sep 11, 2012 6:49 AM
That portion of scripture is exceedingly sophisticated market forces, yet was told by Christ to simple peasants and slaves.

At the early part of the day when a harvest begins a farmer guesses at how much labor he will need and what he can pay them. As the day goes by he figures he has so much sunlight left and so much of his crops to bring in. He has other issues--personal perhaps. Or maybe he understands the weather is going to change tomorrow. or whatever the case may be so he needs to hire more workers.

This time there is a greater advantage to those who he hires later in the day, they get more pay (but worked less hours).

Then, because of urgency on the part of the farmer for the above mentioned probable reasons and the nearing
Mattieohmalley Wrote: Sep 11, 2012 6:55 AM
of sunset, the owner moves with haste to bring in the full crop and puts a premium on the latest hires. They get big bucks per hour. And the reason they do is because without them it becomes clear to the owner that the crop will not be harvested.

If that happens the whole community will suffer for want of food. His interests bless everyone--workers for wages to buy that which they need and food for their families.

If this is directed from a central power it is next to impossible to discern the nuances of what is happening in the field without forcing folks at gunpoint to agree to all the stipulations the owner was able to get people to VOLUNTEER for.

It is pure market forces expressed through contract/agreement without a knife or
Mattieohmalley Wrote: Sep 11, 2012 7:01 AM
gun in the back.

And that is the difference between a market economy and socialism. In socialism things in life do get done (though shabbily because as the soviet slaves learned: they pretended to work and the government pretended to pay). But it gets done at gunpoint. Liberty is thus destroyed.

This is the world the Democrats prefer. Instead of people agreeing by contract (or a handshake) that they will do thus and so for so much money for such a period of time, the Democrats (Obama, Pelosi, Kennedy (dead, thank God), and the other thieves and murderers prefer to aim a gun at the slaves and force them to work. This explains why they believe in taking over the economic life of America as we speak.

Increasingly, priests and pastors are preaching that socialism (in the name of “social justice”) is Christ-like. In truth, capitalism, not socialism, reflects Christian values. I think Christians would be less likely to embrace socialism if they understood that the economic philosophy of Ayn Rand is compatible with Christianity.

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