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plainsense Wrote: Aug 15, 2012 7:00 AM
I certainly don't advocate laws against suicide, simply that we have a right to help them avoid it. The argument is to dispute the notion that there is no room in our moral code to protect people from themselves, as Stossel often advocates. The simple experiences of decent people (like parents) can see the danger and inhumanity of that philosophy.
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plainsense Wrote: Aug 15, 2012 6:15 AM
Basically we should be free to do what we want until we violate the moral order that is necessary to keep us free and safe from harm. It is not legitimate to separate "economic" and personal liberty. True economic(praxiological) conepts concern human action of all sorts. And the moral code applies to humans acting. Once the Christian world view that created this free society is finally destroyed, there will no longer be any room for libertarians either.
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plainsense Wrote: Aug 15, 2012 6:14 AM
The "libertarian" notion that we can't legislate morality is nonsensical. That is the only legitimate purpose of government!! We need to enforce a moral code that prevents thievery, fraud, slavery, violence, endangerment, abuse, etc. Libertarians will use force to protect their children from sexual abuse just as quickly as a "conservative". So libertarian opposition to the moral code is reduced to exposing their children to predators, prostitution, and drugs at 18. I am sure glad that my parents loved me more than that.
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plainsense Wrote: Aug 15, 2012 6:13 AM
Stossel has some good insights. But his agnosticism makes him blind to the role that agape love plays in making human society and freedom work. It comes out in a world view that is often uncaring and unloving, going so far as to advocate that people should be allowed the "freedom" to sell their body parts. An ordinary person rejects the notion that people should be "allowed" to do whatever they want with their own body the first time they have to restrain their todler from running into the street. We reject the notion that people should be "allowed" to commit suicide the first time we have to rescue our teenager from depression from a momentary let-down.
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