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Great analogy.

Nero=Obama

Rome Burning=Obama's Presidency

You know, Nero actually set the fire. THEN HE BLAMED THE CHRISTIANS. Obama is setting FIRES [google cloward-pivin] and is going to blame---WHO ELSE but us Bible, Gun & Constitution clutching Christian conservatives!

HMMMMMMM! I think you are on to something!

Recovering Liberal
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pillar Wrote: Sep 14, 2009 10:23 PM
Sorry for that BIG typo. Anyway I have reade a little of the Jefferson Bible. Course he removed A LOT.

Please remember one thing. RELIGION is a man made thing. And like all man made stuff we have messed it up terribly.

One thought I have developed after my years of experience is that we are in a real battle. I believe we humans are in the center of a real war between beings of such incredible intelligence and power we have no way to comprehend this life.

I believe if we all realized that there is a real attempt to sway lives and minds. If we just don't blindly think that there is absolutely nothing going on unseen around us we can be better off.

I was into the Holy Blood, Holy Grail stuff years ago. ...
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pillar Wrote: Sep 14, 2009 10:10 PM
ActuallY I read the Bible about 2 [thats TWO] hours a day.

Don't know which finger has it's own mind.

Recovering Liberal
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pillar Wrote: Sep 14, 2009 9:55 PM
Let me put it this way.

I have come all the way from being a new ager who actively made fun of Christians.

I studied a bunch of stuff which did the same. "Proofs that the Bible is just a fairy tale and that was MY BELIEF also.

Then I began to study.

Lee Stroebel, Josh McDowell & C. S. Lewis [2 former atheists & 1 agnostic] Were among the first folks I read. By the way this was almost 10 years after I started becoming politically conservative. So the questioning followed the realization that the politics could not work.

When you change one worldview can others be far behind?

I now study the Bible about 10 hours a day. I have a computer program with about 20 versions, dictionaries, couple...
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pillar Wrote: Sep 14, 2009 9:32 PM
Well since I am no longer a liberal my opinions are generally based on facts.

When I was an extreme liberal my opinions were based on lies. Probably the same ones you believe.

Recovering Liberal
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pillar Wrote: Sep 14, 2009 9:21 PM
I've just read a couple of the silly and immature posts from you and the other no nuthins.

God Has a Double Standard

He Hates Divorce!
He Hates Adultry!

But for those things against The Law of God He has provided a remedy.

But homo [A noun the syn for which is human, human being, man] phobia [N for an anxiety disorder characterized by extreme & irrational fear of simple things or social situations??????????????

You are saying we have an extreme and irrational fear of human beings?

So The Creator of the Universe who says that the effiminate will NOT enter His [He owns EVERYTHING including YOU] Kingdom and you are accusing Him of having an EXTREME &...
As a former [now in TOTAL recovery] EXTREME liberal I resent the fact that you presume to tell me what I was.

I was an anti-Christian, pro-EXTEREME environmentalist [read terrorist] pro-One World, pro-abortion, homosexual, anti-marriage [& I lived it] COMMUNIST

The National Socialism Obamanation is revolting. That is why the folks are going to revolt.

To say; "Many self-identified conservatives had a moderate or even left-leaning stance."
reduces the impact of the rest of your argument because that is obvious buffoonery.

I think what you mean to say is that even an extreme conservative can hold a moderate position on something. I, for instance believe that when Texas leaves the union we might as well...
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pillar Wrote: Sep 14, 2009 4:40 PM

Jeffrey you really do get it!

BASED ON THE PUBLIC GOOD!

I spent 5 years teaching in rehabilitation programs for inmates. I have done the research. [talk about being in the middle of your very own research!]

If the women want to do the right thing for their boys, they will marry men. The research I used 10 years ago said that a man in the house is EXTREMELY beneficial to boys growing up. Matter of fact research showed that it doesn't even have to be a particularly good man. Boys, have to have an example of a man to know how to grow up to BE A MAN! Libs don't want us to be men!

Doesn't mean there aren't heroic lives of women who raise boys but the evidence is they would have an easier time w a man...
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pillar Wrote: Sep 14, 2009 3:52 PM
I love it when a fruitcake uses the adultry & divorce issue.

I have done both! And had it not been for the fact that THE loving God [the VERY SAME ONE WHO TOLD THE Israelites to kill every living thing among the Cannanites--DON'T get that either do ya?] provided a way out, I'd be dead forever & still doing the same crap.

I was blind [lib] & now I see.

Try & lecture me about sexual sins. You don't know who or what I have done.

THE LAW [the only one that counts] says adultry & divorce will get you an eternal hotfoot. IT HASN'T CHANGED!

2000 years ago Paul Rmns Chap 1 also said: 1 "claiming to be wise they became fools" 2 because they exchanged truth of God for a lie & worshipped God's creation...
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pillar Wrote: Sep 13, 2009 2:50 PM
Southern Texas?

No, Frank. I was born in "southern" Texas, in Laredo. I am 60, when I was born there were probably out of the 60,000 folks, in Laredo, 3000 gringos, and maybe 200 blacks. I never have been a racist because I never considered the mexicans or the blacks to be different from me. I grew up in a minority.

Sounds like you were a few hundred miles away from SET.

Now I live in an area where in both my previous jobs with about 400 people working in both, I was in the minority. I can tell you that my grandmother not being white probably has something to do with my feelings. But the white people around me generally don't give a damn what color someone is. They do care about character.

And working...
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