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Not Emperor, Just Plays “The One” on TV

PhillupSpace2 Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 4:44 AM
Corrupt Roman Emperors of first and second century Rome kept the restless, idle peoples quiet by bribing them with "free stuff"; sound familiar? The poor plebeians were kept from rioting by this method. Alice Schroaeder of Bloomberg writes: Plebeians will be eligible for welfare, earned income tax credits, food stamps, rent supplements, Medicaid, Head Start, free schooling K-12 with two or three free meals a day at school, Pell Grants and student loans at graduation, job training and unemployment checks for 99 weeks. OOPS, SORRY, THAT WAS OBAMA!!!
jsullivan154 Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 9:16 AM
phillup, forgot mentioning, loopholes, deductions, carried interest, write offs, Tax havens, high frequency trading w/free money benefitting only the top percentile, buy backs, dividends, corporate welfare, etc, and all the while when America is hurting w/these same corps at historic high profitability refusing to hire? Get the picture. Your Grover Norquist idiology is cutting of the nose to spite your own face leading to drowning the government in the bath tub so the few can continue unchecked to "create" a more deregulated market once again, but for who? How Rand Paulish and great until the majority realize we need a strong government to keep these wolves away?
oldguy52 Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 11:45 AM
Whoa there J., Maybe you want to check and see where all those "wolves'" political donations are going before you stick your foot in your mouth too far. Most of who you refer to here sound like democrat cronies to me.

Please, do try to keep up.
PhillupSpace2 Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 4:45 AM

The Danger of Living on Bread and Circuses: Alice Schroeder
In the first two centuries A.D. Rome faced a yawning gulf between rich and poor. The mighty empire built on tribute reached its geographic limits. Its economy created few exportable goods. Slaves acquired by conquest built most of its bridges, roads and aqueducts and took jobs in farming, mining and construction. As this cheaper labor replaced Roman citizens, idle, unemployed people filled the capital.
The Caesars created make-work and part-time jobs, subsidized housing and doled out grain. Even more, they found, was needed. “A people that yawns is ripe for revolt,” wrote Jerome Carcopino in “Daily Life in Ancient Rome.
PhillupSpace2 Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 5:11 AM
.The emperors added holidays until, eventually, the Romans spent half their days attending gladiator games, public executions and chariot (NASCAR) races!
(Or was it Video Games and Texting?

Just substitute Immigrants for Slaves taking the low paying jobs and recognizing America's exports and footprint on the world stage is contracting, there are too many parallels to be comfortable.

As I have frequently written, if FDR had borrowed Six Trillion dollars and spread it around to avoid too much pain, they would never have called it a Depression in the first place!

Free bread, circuses, welfare, food stamps; Stop at your peril!
AZYaateeh Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 5:45 AM
I don't trust the historical arguments of anyone who says Rome got its slaves "by conquest". A very few slaves were gotten that way; most were Romans, in debt, who sold themselves (or the children of debtors, for whom being sold for their parents' debt was filial piety).

And I'd dearly love to know where she gets this crazy idea that Rome's economy had ever NOT reposed on slavery.
PhillupSpace2 Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 5:46 AM
The other Americas are booming: Latin America has its best prospects for a century!

Where can we send our campaign contributions John!
Lars795 Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 6:15 AM
Most were taken in wars, bought from other counties, or were born of slaves. A small percentage were children sold into slavery for debts, or a free person selling themselves for debts.
birdfighter Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 6:22 AM
you have no reliable statistics to prove that most Roman slaves were actually Romans, rather than foreigners--What was Spartacus about anyway, or that the most prestigious slaves were Greeks? Furthermore, Rome's economy never reposed on slavery, but was based on taxation and confiscation and even enterprise of conquered or capitulated states within the empire.
Drik Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 8:27 AM
Maybe a bertter analogy would have been the Isralites who had lost their homes and ended up selling themsleves into slavery with Pharaoh, in exchange for food.
Joseph64 Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 9:04 AM
Incorrect. When Joseph became the number 2 man in Egypt, second only to Pharoah himself, he invited his brothers to resettle in Egypt where they lived as free people. It was only when a new Pharoah ascended to the throne who refused to recognize the previous Pharoah's relationship with Joseph that the Israelites became enslaved.
dferris Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 1:26 PM
Why are America's exports shrinking on the world stage?

Because when we import, we send currency to the nation we import from. That currency has no value unless redeemed for U.S. goods or U.S. investments. A massive debtor U.S. government, however, borrows all of that currency that went overseas (T-Bills, therefore, are the U.S. investment that claims these overseas dollars). That leaves nothing for the nations who exported to us to be able to buy U.S. exports. Stop U.S. borrowing and U.S. exports will immediately go up.

Donald6189 wrote: Sort of, but not quite on topic, just wondering if anyone has come up with a tshirt with the caption "The government went on Sequestration and all I got was this lousy economy!"? Sort of fits with the topic just not completely. - This Jobs Report Not Actual Size

Dear Comrade Don,

Actually it doesn’t fit with the topic, nor is it correct. It’s not even funny.

The economy was lousy before sequestration. Sequestration is aimed at improving the economy even though the politicians would have you believe otherwise.

The only problem I...